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davidt
on Saturday July 21 2007, @12:00PM
This Charming Man sends the link:
Smiths reunion ruled out by bassist and drummer - NME.com Bassist says Morrissey is uncontactable Former bassist with The Smiths Andy Rourke has quashed hopes for a future Smiths reunion, insisting Morrissey is impossible to even contact, let alone coax into reforming. Rourke spoke at the launch of documentary 'Inside The Smiths' last night (July 19) alongside drummer Mike Joyce, who refused to pass comment on the elusive star. "He makes himself unavailable. He only communicates in postcards. But I suppose time is a great healer, and can change your perception of people," he told fans, implying they would have to patch up their relationship before any reunion could take place. The bassist made a cheeky joke about the singer's enigmatic sexuality when asked if Morrissey ever had any groupies, quipping, "He had a delivery once and the boy was in there with him for a good ten minutes, but apart from that, I don't think so." Meanwhile Joyce claims in the documentary, which also features talking heads including Kaiser Chiefs, Buzzcocks and Mark E Smith, that once guitarist Johnny Marr left the band, he realised how difficult Morrissey could be to work with. The crunch, for Joyce, apparently came when the band and crew were sitting down for a meal. "Morrissey was giving me the eye as if to say, 'we need to have a word'," recalled Joyce. "So he took me aside and said, 'Who are these people we're eating with?' I said, 'Well, they're the producer, the engineer, the bassist, guitarist and me.' He said, 'I don't want to eat with these people'. What do I do? Tell them to piss off and not eat with us? That was the brief." --- Also, link posted by Young And Alive in the forums (original post): Smiths drummer: 'Morrissey's curse failed' - Digital Spy Ex-Smiths drummer Mike Joyce has insisted that he remains unaffected by the curse Morrissey placed on him a decade ago. In 1996 Joyce successfully sued his former bandmates Morrissey and Johnny Marr for an equal share of performing and recording royalties from The Smiths' back catalogue. Morrissey later described the case as a "terrible miscarriage of justice" and wished Joyce "the very, very worst for the rest of his life". However, the drummer insisted that the curse has failed, telling the NME: "Well it's not worked so far. Things are fantastic. But I'm only 44 - there's plenty of time for that to kick in. I'm looking out the window now and everything seems alright. Apart from a huge fireball..."
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Rourke And Joyce (Score:0)
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Grupie... (Score:0)
And if you have 10 minutes to spare
Then I'll tell you the story of my life :
I like it here - can I stay ?
Do you have a vacancy
For a Back-scrubber?"
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Hopes? What hopes? (Score:0)
History (Score:0)
The Smiths were fabulous but are now in the past. Morrissey has had a successful career post-Smiths.
There's no point in going back.
Lurv it... (Score:0)
Good writer, but bitchy queen.
Lurv it.
The View From Swallowneck's Window (Score:0)
Swallowneck, of course, watches from behind a silky curtain with relentless glee.
Albert the gardener only charges £5 an hour!
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last wednesday (Score:0)
Morrissey makes a terrible friend. (Score:0)
If this was Elton John, the fans on here would be calling him a grand prick, but since it's Morrissey they'll focus on casting slurs at Andy, and Mike.
The judge apparently nailed it when he said that Moz appeared to be devious, truculent and unreliable.
Who are these people? Jesus, the man had to have his hand-held at every turn. I also like the quip about the rent-a-boy, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was absolutely true.
who care about you 2 anyway? (Score:0)
Johnny Marr and Morrissey were The Smiths.
You 2 can be replaced.
Moral of the Story (Score:0)
-DAVIDismyHERO
Useless (Score:1)
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Users and Abusers (Score:1)
I personally am looking forward to the book Johnny Marr is planning on writing (as per MOJO - June 07 interview). I'll be first in line for that. I only hope it prompts a book from Morrissey to tell his side of the tale.
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Rourke cheap shot bastard, (Score:0)
Then again, neither does Roy. Both have bigger lives to lead than a twee press conference for a DVD that'll keep you in red wine for a month!!
lol, no shit (Score:1)
Smiths is dead. Wake the fuck up.
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Hypocrites (Score:0)
Also, I would rather tour under the attraction that I played music with The Smiths, than to be relegated to Morrissey online bodyguard.
The vast majority of you are pathetic. You have little sense of irony, or reason. Your are left destroying other people over a pop idol that couldn't care less who you are.
I think (Score:1)
so lets end the atttention we give it, and go
over to the news of the day, which is Morrissey,
daily.
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lol (Score:0)
hilarious. surely Moz must have had some affection for Mike Joyce whilst he was in The Smiths. He was part of Moz's little gang. Personally I think that all the band members were upset and confused when Johnny left and the band had effectively fallen to pieces and they just started taking it all out on each other. Despite everything that has happened, I'm sure all members of the band are still sad about what happened and how they all turned on each other just like that. It's bizarre that the people that love the band and made them famous, want to celebrate and have the band forever, yet some of the band themselves are almost celebrating or enjoying its demise. I haven't spoken to my friend for 13 years, were best friends from the age of 5 until were were in our twenties and then we fell out over women and our often stupid behaviour towards each other. Despite all this, we loved each other and shared everything, lived together and so on. Sometimes I laugh and howl to myself about the hilarious things we used to do and I wish I could just see him again. We no longer live close but I know how to contact him with the internet. But then I think about it and I start thinking that I can do without the baggage that comes with it and I don't think there would be room for it in my life now. Maybe that's how Moz and Marr feel, apart from the fact that they are artists in their own right. Perhaps some things are best left in the past.
Fame Fame Fatal Fame".... (Score:1)
In most band reunion situations, the band members usually can bury the hatchet for one show, ten shows or sometimes they can even force a grin or two for a whole North American tour. Case in point, The Police! It all boils down to the mighty dollar or the mighty pound. We all know that money can pretty much make someone's decision about anything turn from "no" to "yes", or even "guilty" to "not guilty" such as the O.J. Simpson case. But when you think about the Morrissey forgiving someone like Mike Joyce, its going to take an awful lot to do so. I truly believe that Morrissey is a man that sticks to his beliefs, decisions and words. {please do not bring up "Paint A Vulger Picture"-smile} I cannot see him forgiving Mike Joyce for any amount of money and then inviting him over his house for tea the next day! I do not see The Smiths re-forming in the near future unless they do so with a substitute drummer. At which point you could not bill the shows as a "Smiths reunion" because it will not include all original band members could you? Imagine, these guys were as tight as 4 brothers at one time? "Fame fame fatal fame, it can play hideous tricks on the brain. But still I'd rather be famous than rightous or holy, anyday anyday anyday".
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Is this news? (Score:1)
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Mike Joyce aka Mike Gross is disgusting (Score:0)
P.S. This was from Morrissey's soul mate.
P.P.S. I have to agree with her that it is too too funny that Morrissey chose to cast aways millions of dollars just so he wouldn’t have to be remotely near you
P.P.P.S. She speaks in codes
There
So that's why Johnny left!!!! (Score:1)
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have these 2 got shit for brains or what? (Score:1)
How sad.
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Oh Give up Joycie and get yourself a job! (Score:0)
Joycie, get yourself a job or get on the DHSS and Social Security. Please stop making yourself a twat. Nobody is interested that you were once a drummer in the Smiths.
Mike and Andy rule out a reunion?!?!? (Score:1)
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Wow! Such Drama (Score:0)
The Smiths reunion will never happen. Rourke & Joycie are clutching their straws with this DVD.
Inside The Smiths Q&A (Score:0)
http://forums.morrissey-solo.com/showthread.php?t
hilarious! (Score:1)
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Ugh! No Morrissey! (Score:0)
Inside the Smiths at no1 in DVD charts (Score:0)
in the UK and I see that Inside the Smiths is
at No2 in the uk charts and at No1 In the HMV
charts.. who was it on this site that said it
would not see the light of day!! just bought it
and watched it. Its the most honest Smiths film
ever, no bullshit just truth, so all you mozzer
lickers get a load of this: ANDY ROURKE AND MIKE
JOYCE have made around 3.5 million this week
alone get yer fuckin heads around that whilst
you are watching it, no spin no bollocks just
decent guys tellin the truth, love it!
Reunion (Score:1)
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A question (Score:0)
How credible is this story? Joyce is talking, I believe, about some post-Johnny shows in 1988 unless I'm very much mistaken. "The producer" in question would be Stephen Street, and the bassist would be Andy Rourke -- both of whom Moz had been working with for years at that point. I'm not sure but wouldn't the guitarist have been Vini Reilly, whom Sandie Shaw said Morrissey got along very very well with (as he did the whole band who worked on "Viva Hate"). So what was the problem? Moz actually knew all of those people he was asking Mike Joyce about.
30.07.07 - New Order at war after 'break-up' (Score:0)
produced Tshirts or artwork!:
Former New Order bassist Peter Hook has threatened to sue his ex-bandmates after they decided to keep the group going without him.
Writing on MySpace, Hook said: "This group has split up. You are no more New Order than I am... see you in court."
Hook said in May the band had broken up. But Bernard Sumner and Stephen Morris recently said the group had not split and they would carry on.
New Order released their last album, Waiting For The Sirens' Call, in 2005. Writing his blog, Hook said: "You may have two thirds, but don't assume you have the rights to do anything New Ordery 'cos you don't. I've still got a third!"
Sumner and Morris, who announced their decision to continue as New Order last week, said Hook had not approached them personally about the decision to end the band.
Hook replied: "Just in case you hadn't noticed, we've not had a personal relationship for a long time now... years in fact!
"Whenever you contact me, it's through the management. I did exactly the same. You all knew what was happening re the split in February."
Sumner and Morris have declined to comment on the development.