Chileiceman
New Member
It's a f***in Union Jack. The man is proud to be British, nothing wrong with that. Just because you love your country doesn't make you racist.
I wonder if somebody might answer me this question.
Morrissey chose to boycott the NME after the August 1992 issue. He kept up this boycott for 15 years - an admirably committed stance. However, when Danny Kelly, Stuart Maconie and myself moved to Q magazine (Danny and Stuart in 1992, myself in 1993), Morrissey was happy to deal with us at Q. His quarrel was clearly with the newspaper itself, not the staff who worked on the cover story that offended him.
Morrissey gave a number of interviews to Q while we were there, and once came up to the Q office to approve some cover photographs - the only time I ever met him. He was charming on this occasion.
He clearly held nothing against any of us. Stuart remains one of his favourite writers. All three of us remain huge fans of Morrissey's solo work. Now, I know a certain strata of Morrissey fan still holds the Madstock issue against those who created it - and some presumably boycott the NME (especially after the more recent furore). But if Morrissey himself can move on. Surely we all can.
I'm really interested to know any thoughts you may have on this issue. And I hope my presence here does not offend anyone.
I wonder if somebody might answer me this question.
Morrissey chose to boycott the NME after the August 1992 issue. He kept up this boycott for 15 years - an admirably committed stance. However, when Danny Kelly, Stuart Maconie and myself moved to Q magazine (Danny and Stuart in 1992, myself in 1993), Morrissey was happy to deal with us at Q. His quarrel was clearly with the newspaper itself, not the staff who worked on the cover story that offended him.
Morrissey gave a number of interviews to Q while we were there, and once came up to the Q office to approve some cover photographs - the only time I ever met him. He was charming on this occasion.
He clearly held nothing against any of us. Stuart remains one of his favourite writers. All three of us remain huge fans of Morrissey's solo work. Now, I know a certain strata of Morrissey fan still holds the Madstock issue against those who created it - and some presumably boycott the NME (especially after the more recent furore). But if Morrissey himself can move on. Surely we all can.
I'm really interested to know any thoughts you may have on this issue. And I hope my presence here does not offend anyone.
I wonder if somebody might answer me this question.
Morrissey chose to boycott the NME after the August 1992 issue. He kept up this boycott for 15 years - an admirably committed stance. However, when Danny Kelly, Stuart Maconie and myself moved to Q magazine (Danny and Stuart in 1992, myself in 1993), Morrissey was happy to deal with us at Q. His quarrel was clearly with the newspaper itself, not the staff who worked on the cover story that offended him.
Morrissey gave a number of interviews to Q while we were there, and once came up to the Q office to approve some cover photographs - the only time I ever met him. He was charming on this occasion.
He clearly held nothing against any of us. Stuart remains one of his favourite writers. All three of us remain huge fans of Morrissey's solo work. Now, I know a certain strata of Morrissey fan still holds the Madstock issue against those who created it - and some presumably boycott the NME (especially after the more recent furore). But if Morrissey himself can move on. Surely we all can.
I'm really interested to know any thoughts you may have on this issue. And I hope my presence here does not offend anyone.
It's very comendable for you to register and come on here and face the hostile hordes. You are going to get a lot of vitriol from some of the more, er, apostolic users. I am and always have been a huge Morrissey fan, and I do take your account as a true and faithful one, why should I not? Anyway, I'm going to sit back and watch this one flow. I think that the default position of trasactional analysis is "I'm OK, you're OK", and it would be nice to think that the more committed fans could be more objective.
Anyway, welcome aboard.
Peter
Blimey, it's going to be harder than I thought to cut through all the hate. Maybe I over-estimated how objective I could be.
As for the old comments from Momus somebody has dug up - when he says Morrissey "cut the NME dead" because of Danny Kelly's "partisanship" for Marr - this would lead one to assume that Morrissey never spoke to the NME after the break-up of the Smiths, which he did, continually. The NME and Morrissey had a very good relationship up until 1992. (He agreed to appear on our 40th anniversary cover when we asked him.) It's amazing how history gets rewritten.
And nobody has answered my question about why Morrissey chose to work with myself, Danny Kelly and Stuart Maconie on Q - and, as I say, came up to the office to look at the photo session, where he was as nice as pie. Why would he do that if he bored a grudge against individuals? You may have some insight on this.
Welcome to the madhouse. I do admire your guts in entering, and there are plenty of people around here whose presence offends me far more than yours, so feel free to post away.I wonder if somebody might answer me this question.
Morrissey chose to boycott the NME after the August 1992 issue. He kept up this boycott for 15 years - an admirably committed stance. However, when Danny Kelly, Stuart Maconie and myself moved to Q magazine (Danny and Stuart in 1992, myself in 1993), Morrissey was happy to deal with us at Q. His quarrel was clearly with the newspaper itself, not the staff who worked on the cover story that offended him.
Morrissey gave a number of interviews to Q while we were there, and once came up to the Q office to approve some cover photographs - the only time I ever met him. He was charming on this occasion.
He clearly held nothing against any of us. Stuart remains one of his favourite writers. All three of us remain huge fans of Morrissey's solo work. Now, I know a certain strata of Morrissey fan still holds the Madstock issue against those who created it - and some presumably boycott the NME (especially after the more recent furore). But if Morrissey himself can move on. Surely we all can.
I'm really interested to know any thoughts you may have on this issue. And I hope my presence here does not offend anyone.
And nobody has answered my question about why Morrissey chose to work with myself, Danny Kelly and Stuart Maconie on Q - and, as I say, came up to the office to look at the photo session, where he was as nice as pie. Why would he do that if he bored a grudge against individuals? You may have some insight on this.
Thank you for coming here, Andrew. I know some of us are impressed.
A post on your website made the same point: why would Morrissey come and talk to those against whom he publicly bore a grudge?
I don't know the answer to that. I also don't see how it's relevant. Most of us who were critical of the NME's 1992 cover story viewed the fiasco as something that happened completely without Morrissey's involvement. Really, that was one of the key points about the whole incident (which you obviously get, since you lament his choice to "retire into silence"). The anger was about what the NME did. What would it prove to say that he came round and was nice as pie? Not much, it seems. Why don't you explain why you think this is important, first?
Is your point simply that if Morrissey isn't angry, why should his fans be? Or is there more?
Asking us to explain Morrissey's grudge or lack thereof is pointless-- as is any attempt by a mere mortal to explain what the hell goes on in his mind. You probably know that better than anyone. The fact that he was jolly with you, Danny, and Stuart over at Q is just one of many riddles we'll never solve. On the other hand, why you made such an articulate defense of Richard Herring using the same arguments you could have applied to Morrissey 17 years ago is a riddle that has an answer, I'm sure.
I think Morrissey can speak for himself on this issue -
In my life
Why do i smile
At people who i'd much rather kick in the eye ?