"Madness stars still angry over Morrissey gig walkout" - Daily Express

Madness stars still angry over Morrissey gig walkout - Daily Express

MADNESS stars GRAHAM 'SUGGS' MCPHERSON and CHRIS FOREMAN are still annoyed singer MORRISSEY walked out of their 1992 reunion shows because the incident cast a shadow over the band's comeback.

The former The Smiths frontman was invited to perform on the bill at the two-day 'Madstock!' event in London but he cut short his first set when he was pelted with bottles and coins by the crowd, and he subsequently pulled out of his second slot the following day.

In the days following the concerts, media coverage was dominated by speculation about Morrissey's cancellation and some members of Madness are still upset that the incident cast a cloud over their hotly-anticipated reunion, six years after they split.

When asked if Morrissey's walkout ruined the event, frontman McPherson tells Q magazine, "Not as much as he hoped it would!"

Guitarist Foreman adds, "It was a shame because it was a really big thing for us."

 

[Uncleskinny]

I didn't post any hate and abuse towards Skinny. As a moderator though he should understand that he sets the tone.

No I don't, never have, never want to, am asked to, or ever will. I'm a user like anyone else here. I work behind the scenes doing stuff. Nowhere near as much as David, though. What a bizarre suggestion that I am some sort or tone-setter. I use this site just like you do, I just push a few buttons behind the scenes as well.

P.

 

[ICU]

No I don't, never have, never want to, am asked to, or ever will. I'm a user like anyone else here. I work behind the scenes doing stuff. Nowhere near as much as David, though. What a bizarre suggestion that I am some sort or tone-setter. I use this site just like you do, I just push a few buttons behind the scenes as well.

P.

I completely agree. You're just one of many stupid idiot c**ts who all do their bit to contribute to this site's ass suck factor.

 

[Uncleskinny]

I completely agree. You're just one of many stupid idiot c**ts who all do their bit to contribute to this site's ass suck factor.

I think the black hole of irony has just turned in on itself.

P.

 

[oliver]

No I don't, never have, never want to, am asked to, or ever will. I'm a user like anyone else here. I work behind the scenes doing stuff. Nowhere near as much as David, though. What a bizarre suggestion that I am some sort or tone-setter. I use this site just like you do, I just push a few buttons behind the scenes as well.

P.

fair enough... apologies. I assumed you were an admin/mod.

I maintain that the tone of a(ny) site comes from the top down as to what will or will not be accepted though.

 

[bhops]

fair enough... apologies. I assumed you were an admin/mod.

I maintain that the tone of a(ny) site comes from the top down as to what will or will not be accepted though.

Yeah unfortunately you'd be barking up the wrong tree here Oliver. The behaviour of the mods on Solo, particularly with the tone of some of the language they use can be downright nasty and venomous. Logic (at least yours or mine) might dictate that someone with moderating powers would want to set an example of civil interaction between posters but not on this site. It's kinda sad but it aint gonna change they seem happy to carry on as and they have all the power, so......................

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah unfortunately you'd be barking up the wrong tree here Oliver. The behaviour of the mods on Solo, particularly with the tone of some of the language they use can be downright nasty and venomous. Logic (at least yours or mine) might dictate that someone with moderating powers would want to set an example of civil interaction between posters but not on this site. It's kinda sad but it aint gonna change they seem happy to carry on as and they have all the power, so......................

Exactly - if you can live with and/or ignore the stench of hypocrisy and the serious unpleasantness that permeates from the top down, that's probably best. If you complain, they'll just automatically label you as someone who has a "fluffy world view" or a sycophant who believes Morrissey can do no wrong. That's their default response to any criticism of the site or the trolls they permit to play here. Anyone with a brain can tell that this ISN'T the case of course, but it seems that's the line they've decided on and it seems to be the very best they can manage in response to the frequent criticism (which in itself speaks very eloquently about this site, davidt's agenda and the way So_Low is run).

 

[Bluebirds]

Who cares? If a moderator has something to communicate about 'moderation' that's fine. If they wish to express a personal opinion as a comment, separate to their role as a moderator, that's also fine. Aren't you aware of the difference?


On one level this is 'only' a web site about a minor pop star, but on another it's 'quite important'. Just try expressing your Freedom Of Speech on The Guardian or The Telegraph and see what the 'moderators' get up to there!!

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All my comments are pre-meditated on one of those websites. On the other they're merely pre-moderated. Which bemuses me as I've never told anyone to go forth and multiply on either.

Love ya long time x

 

[johnadjusted]

I use this site just like you do, I just push a few buttons behind the scenes as well.

P.

Except we can't spout out "you're blocked" & then actually block or ban members or whatever, for maybe saying or implying a lot less than yourself.

 

[Anonymous]

Exactly - if you can live with and/or ignore the stench of hypocrisy and the serious unpleasantness that permeates from the top down, that's probably best. If you complain, they'll just automatically label you as someone who has a "fluffy world view" or a sycophant who believes Morrissey can do no wrong. That's their default response to any criticism of the site or the trolls they permit to play here. Anyone with a brain can tell that this ISN'T the case of course, but it seems that's the line they've decided on and it seems to be the very best they can manage in response to the frequent criticism (which in itself speaks very eloquently about this site, davidt's agenda and the way So_Low is run).

LOL, you guys make me laugh.( anyone with a brain can tell it actually is the case.) Its all one more big conspiracy, I reckon.
Is Moz himself organizing this effort from his 5 star bunker?

 

[Johnny Barleycorn]

Exactly - if you can live with and/or ignore the stench of hypocrisy and the serious unpleasantness that permeates from the top down, that's probably best. If you complain, they'll just automatically label you as someone who has a "fluffy world view" or a sycophant who believes Morrissey can do no wrong. That's their default response to any criticism of the site or the trolls they permit to play here. Anyone with a brain can tell that this ISN'T the case of course, but it seems that's the line they've decided on and it seems to be the very best they can manage in response to the frequent criticism (which in itself speaks very eloquently about this site, davidt's agenda and the way So_Low is run).

Your posts aren't deleted and nor do you get banned. You have freedom of speech, the very thing you appear to wish to deny people with whom you disagree. There are four or five posters on here so deluded, moreso even than Morrissey himself, perhaps, who are essentially fascists. It is noticeable that those of us who criticise Morrissey do not call for others to be banned or for their views to be moderated. That is solely the province of an ever dwindling band of cultists, a number of whom, like yourself, do not even have the courage to sign in.

 

[trask]

It is noticeable that those of us who criticise Morrissey do not call for others to be banned or for their views to be moderated.

Yes. Being a moderator is nice, because instead of calling for moderation, you can just moderate.

That is solely the province of an ever dwindling band of cultists, a number of whom, like yourself, do not even have the courage to sign in.

Wow. There is a cult? Are they dangerous?

 

[Chip]

Is this site some sort of post-mordern performance art?

It pretends to be a Morrissey message board, but really all we do, no matter what the topic is, is talk about the message board itself?

Is this some art student's dissertation?

What are you trying to convey? What deep message I am supposed to take away from this performance? I fear I am too dense to grasp it.

 

[123xyz]

Is this site some sort of post-mordern performance art?

It pretends to be a Morrissey message board, but really all we do, no matter what the topic is, is talk about the message board itself?

Is this some art student's dissertation?

What are you trying to convey? What deep message I am supposed to take away from this performance? I fear I am too dense to grasp it.

Good call. If only the first rule of Morrissey-solo.com could be "You do not talk about Morrissey-solo.com" ...

 

[celibate]

Good call. If only the first rule of Morrissey-solo.com could be "You do not talk about Morrissey-solo.com" ...

well said, but 500 people , 500 unique persons with a personal vieuw and opinion [500 is just a number, it's about words]

'and they say he's mentall'...Hairdresser fired...

 

[Anonymous]

I like it how all these people, the yes men, who don't like this message board are the ones who talk about it in a spurious non stop manner. Ruminate while creating bizarre theories. Hate it but spend time dispensing incoherent advice, leaving the readership shaking its collective head.

 

[Charlie Cheswick]

I like it how all these people, the yes men, who don't like this message board are the ones who talk about it in a spurious non stop manner. Ruminate while creating bizarre theories. Hate it but spend time dispensing incoherent advice, leaving the readership shaking its collective head.

Yawn.

 

[Anonymous]

Yawn.

Beat downs(with one of those green/blue flowers, my guess) and talk of moral fiber in a Morrissey board.

*eyeballs wildly rolling inside noggin*

 

[Tingle3]

Nonsense. Morrissey was trolling Madness, their minority knucklehead fan element and, of course, the NME. Mind you that was a win-win for Moz/NME as he got the front page, not Madness, and they got their faux-racist outrage ventilation about Morrissey. You can't seriously suggest that Morrissey didn't realise that cavorting around the stage in a gold lame bomber jacket with the Butcher's Apron wrapped around him wouldn't antagonise 'the lads' who followed Madness and the gormless Socialist Worker hacks who controlled the NME at that time? It's almost as if you're saying a section of Madness fans are, I dunno, a 'sub-species' with your claim that their reaction to Morrissey was 'racist'. But we're all bored of that trolling by Moz. He's trolling CANCER now...he just can't stop trolling, maybe it's his substitute for sex...

It would be amusing to see Morrissey slithering across the stage in Dublin with the Union Jack like wot he did in Finsbury Park. Might provoke an amusing response! Still, he's pretty promiscuous with flags, what with wearing Argentine colours for a few column inches, so nobody should take his professed allegiance to either the UK or The Republic Of Ireland remotely seriously. He should properly be holding aloft the flag of whatever country he is domiciled in for Tax purposes, presumably Switzerland. I doubt he pays circa 60% taxes to Socialist Sweden.

Madness should have spotted the chancer before he used them as a prop for his 'skinheads with nail varnish' phase. He even tried to nick their sound with Langer & Winstanley. But that didn't end well. LOLz!

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I know that the crowd was pretty horrible and I don't believe that Morrissey was expecting that. It must have been quite a disappointment. I went to the gig expecting that it would laregly be a pretty left-wing, tolerant audience. Turns out that it wasn't. I blame the thugs not Morrissey for how things turned out. The thugs that were there to see "Madness".

 

[Chip]

I know that the crowd was pretty horrible and I don't believe that Morrissey was expecting that. It must have been quite a disappointment. I went to the gig expecting that it would laregly be a pretty left-wing, tolerant audience. Turns out that it wasn't. I blame the thugs not Morrissey for how things turned out. The thugs that were there to see "Madness".

I am actually very curious about the whole Madstock incident. The way it always gets explained retroactively was that Morrissey was flirting with the far-right, trounced around on stage with a British flag, and that even though that was just a standard part of his repertoire at the time given the prevalence of neo-Nazis in Madness's fan base, the ambiguous lyrics of National Front Disco, and his general weird then fixation on skinhead culture resulted in quite a big backlash over his (rightfully or wrongly) perceived endorsement of the far-right/racist right.

There is also the whole he was pelted with objects by the far-right angle, which somehow always gets lost in this story and is as a result the part I am most interested in. My general understanding is that they didn't like his gold lament shirt/humansexuals in general and that even if Morrissey wanted his fan base to consist of skinheads in nail varnish they didn't really want to be his fans.

 

[Chickpea]

A firsthand account worth reading:

My Favourite Worst Nightmare – Morrissey & Madstock
http://state.ie/features/archive/my-favourite-worst-nightmare-morrissey-madstock

"Of course, I was only through the Park gates for a few moments when a lager-swilling huddle of bovver-booted neo-Nazis spotted my quiff and garb and blew poisoned kisses in my direction, tweeting, 'ooh, Morrissey, Morrissey!'"

"Meanwhile, Morrissey, a Liberace shirt slung over his skinny frame, is waving these fascist-spawned monsters’ Union Flag at them while relating the experience of Davey, the young man who went to the National Front Disco'; if ever there was an sudden irony failure at NME, who’d slated Morrissey’s solo work for not treading on the taboos of old’, it was right here. Only a couple of years later, they would laud Britpop and the reclaiming of the British flag, yet here, it was Morrissey, and not this foul minority in Madness’s audience, who they cast as the racist."

"Morrissey finished his otherwise triumphant set early and failed to show for day two; Suggs never mentioned, nor was he ever quizzed upon, his band’s neo-fascist supporters’ behaviour that day. Meanwhile, me and my fellow Moz heads made our tremulous way to the tube station, well before midnight, in blissful ignorance of just how this story was about to be spun by the popular music press we’d supported for years; so long as we remember exactly what took place that day, the chroniclers and revisionists can simply get on with glossing over the inconvenient truth."