"Monster"
The postcard confuses as German/French, but yes, tinted flowers!?.Is it ‘Nante’ before ‘Monster ‘? Or am
I seeing that wrong?
Edit: Nantes is in France, the postcard is maybe French sent from France?
Do you know the backstory? What convention was he donating these signed items to?
Wonder what the postcard image was. Flowers ?
Funny that you'd ask, because I was actually trying to locate the postcard image as well. It seems it was a series of vintage type motives (apparently printed in Duisburg, Germany and?) and the only one I was able to find from this series was "Picnic, MC11", which looks like this:Is it ‘Nante’ before ‘Monster ‘? Or am
I seeing that wrong?
Do you know the backstory? What convention was he donating these signed items to?
Wonder what the postcard image was. Flowers ?
Think "Venlo" might actually be correct (after the Dutch city perhaps?) as it pops up under this name multiple times linked to one Peter Rayner from the mid 90s on.Venlow was cited via accountant letters sold on Ebay as an old house name/address of his in Altrincham (missing a 'w' in this).
20 miles from Bury.
FWD.
Indeed.Think "Venlo" might actually be correct (after the Dutch city perhaps?) as it pops up under this name multiple times linked to one Peter Raynor from the mid 90s on.
Recently mentioned here as well
Strange/unexpected Moz references?
He's not vegan either though, is he? He seems to have been quite careful to avoid using the word about himself, if memory serves. No, I think he is a vegan now. It's fairly recent - last decade or so.www.morrissey-solo.com
The postcard confuses as German/French, but yes, tinted flowers!?.
He indicates he is in the UK (Bury mentioned is about 9 miles from Manchester).
The Smiths conventions were held in Manchester and in looking through bits and bobs, I think Kewpie and I actually crossed paths in 1989 as we both attended said
I'd suspect this is exactly what he's referring to.
Here's some of the goodies from the first one in '88 which shows that type of item would go down well:
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No idea about the Nante bit.
Regards,
FWD.
Funny that you'd ask, because I was actually trying to locate the postcard image as well. It seems it was a series of vintage type motives (apparently printed in Duisburg, Germany and?) and the only one I was able to find from this series was "Picnic, MC11", which looks like this:
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I suppose "Fleurs, MC5" was a ... flower motive?
The convention is probably the Smiths Convention that happened in 1988 - there was a rumour that Morrissey was at some point outside the Haçienda sitting in a white VW, and one of the organisers apparently lived in Bury.
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The Smiths Convention July 1988
As well as the many gigs there was another significant event that occurred in 1988. In issue no.8 of Smiths Indeed I spotted an advert for a Smiths Convention which was being held in Manchester in …indiegiglist.wordpress.com
The word before "Monster" looks like "Nante"
to me.
I just thought it was an interesting way to sign a letter since he must have written November Spawned A Monster around that time (although he always had a tendency for signing letters or postcards with words like "Misery" or, like above, "Monotony".)
THE DEEP END - Nick Kent, The Face, March 1990 perhaps?Snip...
Anyway, I swear I remember reading some music paper where he jokingly referred to November as his version of Frankenstein.
Very cool, thanks for that info.
Maybe ‘Fleurs MC5’ was his way of saying ‘kick out the flowers!’ ? or not.
Yes Monster of course also made me think of November, and it was the right time. Then ‘Nante’ will remain a mystery, for now. Oh I later added
that Nantes is a city in Paris, so was trying to make that connection.
I wonder if while in Paris he picked up a copy of ‘Maldoror’ which supposedly had some influence on November.
From wiki...
“The song is quoting Les Chants de Maldoror (Chant 2, verse 7), in which a hermaphrodite perceives himself as a monster and dreams of love.”
Though I wonder if he ever read the book?
while I’m at it ....
‘I've gotta ask you one question
Do you think that you could make it with Frankenstein?’
- David Johansen
‘And if the lights were out
Could you even bear
To kiss her full on the mouth
(or anywhere?)’
Anyway, I swear I remember reading some music paper where he jokingly referred to November as his version of Frankenstein.
Yep, The Face March 1990:
"Then there's 'November' (Spawned A Monster) which in a sense is my version of the New York Dolls' 'Frankenstein'. It's about a person who's confined to a wheelchair, who can't make much sense of her life and whose only ambition is to walk down the road in clothes she personally went out and chose and bought herself."
Another possible influence is Lynch's Elephant Man, which made a lasting impression on him.
I somehow doubt "Nante" refers to the French city of Nantes, the card doesn't read as if he's on vacation. A mystery indeed.
One would have to be inhuman to not be moved by that film.
Makes me think of these clips, I’m sure someone has the whole play on film somewhere ..... along with ‘South With Morrissey’ wouldn’t mind seeing it.
One would have to be inhuman to not be moved by that film.
Makes me think of these clips, I’m sure someone has the whole play on film somewhere ..... along with ‘South With Morrissey’ wouldn’t mind seeing it.
í never knew that Mark Chapman had front row tickets to "The Elephant Man" the night after he murdered Lennon. Or that Lennon & Yoko had front row tickets for that night too. Bowie was second on Chapman's 'list', and had apparently had his photograph taken with Bowie outside the theatre earlier in the run. He could have murdered either of them. Which explains why Bowie hid in Switzerland for 3 years as soon as his New York theatre run was up...
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“The song is quoting Les Chants de Maldoror (Chant 2, verse 7), in which a hermaphrodite perceives himself as a monster and dreams of love.”
Though I wonder if he ever read the book?