The world's oldest music store Spillers Records bans Morrissey albums

Morrissey banned. Let the book burning's begin..



Spillers Records bans Morrissey music over his support for the far right - Wales Online
The world's oldest record store said it was 'saddened but not surprised'

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The world's oldest record store Spillers Records in Cardiff has banned Morrissey records from its store.

The shop, in Morgan Arcade, is refusing to stock the singer's releases because of his continued support for the far-right.

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However, one place you won't be able to buy the album is Cardiff's much loved independent record shop Spillers.

Ashli Todd, the owner of Spillers said: "I'm saddened but ultimately not surprised that Spillers is unable to stock Morrissey’s releases any longer. I only wished I’d done it sooner.”

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Spillers owner Ashli Todd (Image: WalesOnline/Rob Browne)


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It’s really not the same as campaigning for it. Unless Bowie wore a “have sex with minors” badge on his last tour, it really ain’t the same.

Gossip between rockstars is a campaigning of ones sexual proclivities, and therefore making the action acceptable.

It’s hypocritical that Spillers would take this moral high ground of a stance but continue to sell records from Bowie to Ryan Adams, etc.

Their hate is strangely selective, selective enough where by banning one artist won’t hurt them but the publicity will make up for it, but if their actions were truly being done because of their high morals and not out of getting a little publicity then they would also apply their action to all the artists in their store, which would hurt them.

Yet, their hate is strangely selective...

or is Morrissey just the newly appointed boogeyman for 2019? an easy target that’s hip to hate?


Anything for a little publicity.



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Maybe, but there's a moral judgement being made here i.e. the owner finds underaged sex/padeophilia, in the cases of Bowie and Jackson, less offensive than someone having views they don't agree with. Personally, for me, somebody committing murder like Phil Spector, or the acts of Gary Glitter say, are worse than having just an odd and inconsistent point of view.

Also, there are plenty of right wing singers and musicians out there. Elvis. Johnny Ramone. Ted Nugent. Phil Collins. Eric Clapton. Gary Barlow. Kanye West. Iggy Pop. Even Kate Bush praised Theresa May.

Ian Curtis voted Tory and his band name was a direct Nazi reference - does she stock Joy Division?

It's also ironic that's now she's not stocking an album that actually contains several left-liberal protest songs.

I vote Labour btw - and will today - and I find this whole social media-driven demonising of Morrissey utterly ludicrous.

Hear ! hear ! :thumb:

And ban all artists that were and are influenced by Morrissey !!!! May as well close shop.

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I think many people would say that gangster rap has perpetuated and inspired many people to join gangs sell drugs and commit violent crimes. Also the argument would and has been made that getting away with and brushing off instances of sex with minors normalizes the crime and contributes to reduced action towards the issue which is prevalent and wide spread. Christians many of whom vote believe that underage sex is ok as long as the raper marries the child. This happens all over the us though mostly the south. Look up the stats on child marriage in the us. I’d say we should ban Christianity (a joke) but then I might perplexingly get called a racist

Well if you support Morrissey’s rhetoric that sexual abuse is down to parental negligence & the child’s lack of awareness. Then you should be ok with it. I seem to remember ketamine sun standing by those comments, now he/she’s boohoo’ing and sympathising with the victim. It’s crazy how the same people who are saying Bowie should be banned, are also the same people who gave Spacey a pass, just cos Morrissey said so.
 
Well if you support Morrissey’s rhetoric that sexual abuse is down to parental negligence & the child’s lack of awareness. Then you should be ok with it. I seem to remember ketamine sun standing by those comments, now he/she’s boohoo’ing and sympathising with the victim. It’s crazy how the same people who are saying Bowie should be banned, are also the same people who gave Spacey a pass, just cos Morrissey said so.

Not true. I could see how Morrissey from his point of view came to those conclusions in his way of thinking (probably at that moment, has he changed them since?), but I
would never blame the victim. It’s very complicated. And it’s difficult in general
to agree with Morrissey’s sometimes off the cuff statements, especially because he never really throughly explains himself during or after his statements, so it just becomes a guessing game based on assumptions from fans and non-fans what he actually means.

Also Morrissey’s views on the topic you brought up are of no concern to Spillers who will still continue to sell records by Bowie, Ryan Adams,etc.


SPILLERS HAS BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS THAT THEY CAN NOT BE CLEAN OF.

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Well if you support Morrissey’s rhetoric that sexual abuse is down to parental negligence & the child’s lack of awareness. Then you should be ok with it. I seem to remember ketamine sun standing by those comments, now he/she’s boohoo’ing and sympathising with the victim. It’s crazy how the same people who are saying Bowie should be banned, are also the same people who gave Spacey a pass, just cos Morrissey said so.

Well I was one of those who was for sure against that comment and said so at the time. That said Morrissey made a comment but Bowie actually committed the act. How can you give Bowie, the abuser, a pass but hate Morrissey for the comment. If you still support Bowie then I find it hard for you to get that upset about morrisseys comment about spacey. I was truly disappointed in Morrissey for the comment but disgusted by Bowies actions which cause actual harm. That said I still own both there catalogs and maybe could forgive them both. It’s easier to forgive Morrissey than Bowie though don’t you think. I wonder if she sells the iggy pop album with the song where he says he slept with a 13yo and brags that her parents can’t do anything about it. I bet she does. Does she consider bragging about child rape more forgivable than voting for a political party. That’s what I would take away from this decision
 
I don’t think he is though. Contributing that is. I remember the whole Bernie bros issue where a faction of his supporters and not necessarily a small faction were harassing and doxing people all over the place or where they threw chairs at one event. I didn’t hold people who voiced support for as contributing to the justification of vandalism lawlessness or harassment (especially when so much was directed at women). I also for the record would have voted for him despite not believing in socialism. My point being that my vote doesn’t mean an across the board support for everything he stands for. Parts of his platform and approach I don’t agree with at all. Part of me would have just been voting for certain issues and part of me would have been voting against the other side

I don't think or suggest he is deliberately contributing but some who follow him who have these ideas or are borderline could be swayed but this is not his problem.
My main issue is purely that he appears to be openly flaunting his support for an openly racist party.
Doesn't stop me listening to or buying his music, let's face it he's flirted with right wing racist ideas for almost 30 years!
 
the guardian is not a left wing loon rag? WtF??:crazy:
i suppose you think skinny is a brilliant funguist as well:crazy:
an expert on non fungi fungi as well as fungi fungus:lbf:

the guardian is nothing but unemployed left wing loon twats working for a snack:lbf:

this c*** at the record store is probably a nazi sympathizer, thats what they did
back in the day, boycott stuff that is pro israel like moz music.o_O

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To be honest your starting to sound like a rambling fool!

The guardian is at most a slight left leaning centrist paper, bit like the times being a slight right leaning centrist paper. The Morning Star is your left wing paper bit like the express or mail.

No idea what you mean by skinny, I'm assuming you mean coffee or something but not sure really.

Bit of a contradiction as well to say unemployed left wing loon twats, I'd imagine they probably earn around 30-50k a year!

Go take your semi chubbie and look at more pictures of Yaxley-Lennon
 
To be honest your starting to sound like a rambling fool!

The guardian is at most a slight left leaning centrist paper, bit like the times being a slight right leaning centrist paper. The Morning Star is your left wing paper bit like the express or mail.

No idea what you mean by skinny, I'm assuming you mean coffee or something but not sure really.

Bit of a contradiction as well to say unemployed left wing loon twats, I'd imagine they probably earn around 30-50k a year!

Go take your semi chubbie and look at more pictures of Yaxley-Lennon


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o_O

the guardian is a slight left leaning rag and you never heard of Skinny.
WtF, its Skinny, again with a new puppet name. I should have known.
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saying that the Guardian is slightly left is akin to saying Ocatavius was slightly
a Roman Emperordoh: Very bad form, Skinny.


you click on the cluck guardian and immediately a pop up springs up
demanding money: please help us we are going out of business any time
help us please with any money you have that you dont need. very embarrasing
then you give them a coin or two and they hate you for it, they are the proleteriat
after all:nomouth:
its best not to feed them.:grimacing:
 
Donate ALL the money that you have received from selling Moz/Smiths merchandise over the years to charity, Spillars.
No ? Didn't think so.
 
I don't think or suggest he is deliberately contributing but some who follow him who have these ideas or are borderline could be swayed but this is not his problem.
My main issue is purely that he appears to be openly flaunting his support for an openly racist party.
Doesn't stop me listening to or buying his music, let's face it he's flirted with right wing racist ideas for almost 30 years!

I think he’s felt sympathy for people but I don’t think hes flirted with there ideas at all. He’s also flirted and outright supported many left wing ideas. If anything Morrissey would probably be called a libertarian here. Singing songs about people isn’t agreeing with them. Any party that’s against immigration at this point will attract a large group of racists but it doesn’t mean that the party is found on racism anymore than Bernie Sanders party was anti feminism despite attracting at lot of female harassers. I think he agrees with waters on a lot of things but possibly not all and I think he hates most of the other candidates. I don’t think he’s judging the party based on who else is voting for them
 
I guess me making a comment means I've been triggered. I always wondered what it would be like.

How does it feel
I don't think or suggest he is deliberately contributing but some who follow him who have these ideas or are borderline could be swayed but this is not his problem.
My main issue is purely that he appears to be openly flaunting his support for an openly racist party.
Doesn't stop me listening to or buying his music, let's face it he's flirted with right wing racist ideas for almost 30 years!

What ideas exactly? For Britain is a Nationalist party, i don't believe they consider themselves right wing. ASls, what statements do they hold that gives credence to Morrissey supporting racism?
 
It's a publicity stunt.


Obvious as snow.

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You got any other examples of Spiller publicity stunts? Or is this the first one in 100 years? Any examples of this particular owner fishing for publicity? Show me a pattern of behaviour that backs it up.

Desperate times call for desperate pathetic measures. Most people purchase online, easier than going in person to a shop, especially with younger generations who have no need or desire for a physical record.
 
You got any other examples of Spiller publicity stunts? Or is this the first one in 100 years? Any examples of this particular owner fishing for publicity? Show me a pattern of behaviour that backs it up.

Lol.
 
Well I was one of those who was for sure against that comment and said so at the time. That said Morrissey made a comment but Bowie actually committed the act. How can you give Bowie, the abuser, a pass but hate Morrissey for the comment. If you still support Bowie then I find it hard for you to get that upset about morrisseys comment about spacey. I was truly disappointed in Morrissey for the comment but disgusted by Bowies actions which cause actual harm. That said I still own both there catalogs and maybe could forgive them both. It’s easier to forgive Morrissey than Bowie though don’t you think. I wonder if she sells the iggy pop album with the song where he says he slept with a 13yo and brags that her parents can’t do anything about it. I bet she does. Does she consider bragging about child rape more forgivable than voting for a political party. That’s what I would take away from this decision

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You got any other examples of Spiller publicity stunts? Or is this the first one in 100 years? Any examples of this particular owner fishing for publicity? Show me a pattern of behaviour that backs it up.

Yeah, I've got an example; They continually state that they're the oldest record store in the world. Which is an untruth, as they don't occupy the same premises, which they vacated a few years ago.

They could say that their store is named after the oldest record store in the world. But they don't say that.

They could even say that their store was established, whenever. But they don't say that either.

Ergo, stating that they're the oldest record store in the world is just for publicity.

f*** Spillers.
 
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