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Mike Joyce to release 'never been heard' Smiths tracks on his site?

posted by davidt on Friday February 01 2002, @10:00AM
Mozluv writes:

Mike Joyce paid a visit to the chat today, and is going to put up "Never heard before Smiths songs" on his website in about a week. Here are some excerpts:

Due to the shock of him being in the chat, one fan stated:

"it's very cool that despite the differences in court with Moz you still are "out there" for the fans..."

MJ: The Drums 01:23:42
Quite.....That's why I have decided to put them on the site......

Mike Joyce talking about the website and Smiths fans and touring with Ezra's band:

The Drums 01:19:36
It was a gas......

The Drums 01:20:17
Drink, Friends,Fans....

The Drums 01:39:54
Check out :mikejoyce.com In a couple of days.......

The Drums 01:22:13
My website will be up & running in about 1 week....I am going to have at least 4 Smiths tracks that have never been heard before...Different mixes etc.....

The Drums 01:24:25
I have some amazing stuff .....
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  • Was that really Mike Joyce saying that?That is gonna be so cool if it was,although this is a MORRISSEY-SOLO chat,it is always nice to hear about other members of his old band putting out songs.Not only songs,BUT SMITHS SONGS!!!!
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @10:08AM (#23793)
  • This man got a degree in marketing. It's a good way to get some visitors.
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @10:12AM (#23794)

  • Yep, it's tue! (Score:3, Informative)

    I don't get into the chat room much anymore but hey I was incredibly bored at work and went in it yesterday and indeed was the one asking him about "new" Smiths tracks... People have always been skeptical of "The Drums" in the chat room but I verified it was really Mike Joyce because he knew details about our mutual friends he has met in person that only the real Mike Joyce would know... well anyways he will be emailing either Dave Tseng or myself the MP3's to post here - let's be glad that he's willing to share!!

    best,

    Jay "mud"
    Mud <[email protected]> -- Friday February 01 2002, @10:17AM (#23795)
    (User #454 Info | http://jaytando.tripod.com/meeting-morrissey/)
    I'm really just Some Totally Random Moz Fan
  • I knew those tracks were there. So much for Johnny "there are no unreleased Smiths tracks" Marr.
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @10:27AM (#23796)
  • Does anyone have an idea on what the titles of the songs will be? hopefully the rest of the smiths can contribute to the cause.Mike mentioned on kroq that he lots of unreleased material of the smiths.
    leedoggpimp <[email protected]> -- Friday February 01 2002, @10:43AM (#23797)
    (User #2789 Info | http://www.morrisseymusic.com/)
    True friends stab you in the front.
  • mikejoyce.com 's not up, but it confirms the new tracks info:

    "The new site will be
    regularly updated with a host of new features - news & material from the present
    to new material from Mikes career as thedrummer in the Smiths both visual and
    the hotly rumoured unheard audio clips from that period............
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @10:44AM (#23798)
  • Much Props and love for doing this - I hope it all comes to pass and that you get the respect and success you deserve.

    Thanks man,
    Smiths <reversethis-{moc ... a} {2eporhtdniw}> -- Friday February 01 2002, @11:16AM (#23803)
    (User #215 Info)
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        What, so you're trying to tell me that you won't download them, eh sonny? You're trying to tell me that you think Mike Joyce is such a tosser that you won't visit his website simply to get these extra Smiths tracks sonny? Maybe Joyce was a bit-part player, but please tell me, name one drummer who made a band into what they are now? Answer briefly.

        Let's face it, Morrissey's done bugger all worthwhile for quite a wee while now. At least Joyce is keeping interest up. OK, Joyce was background furniture, as you so put it. But he was still one quarter of the greatest band of all time. He was truly, first and foremost, a Smith. More than could be said, say, of Johnny Marr. He shows how much he cared about the band by starting the split.

        Joyce still talks about the glory days, and that's fine. We're still clinging to the old days, aren't we sonny? Do you realise I've called you "sonny" three times in this post? I hope you have. Am I beginning to annoy you? Reply briefly.

        I don't know abnout you sonny, but I'm going to get these tracks, beg borrow or steal...
        JacquesTheLad -- Friday February 01 2002, @04:33PM (#23835)
        (User #3569 Info | http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/handinglove)
        "She doesn't even like me...And I know because she said so..."
  • lets hope from mike releasing these new tracks,that more would be on the way. I heard that there were some tracks that had featuerd brass instruments in an interview mike did around the way.
    lil basterd -- Friday February 01 2002, @12:17PM (#23809)
    (User #3633 Info)
  • I really enjoy hearing work in progess, alternative takes, and sketched ideas. Something tells me, however, that these tunes will never see the light of day. Moz can be a vicious bitch about this shit.
    Crossed Fingers.
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @12:22PM (#23810)
  • MP3's are nice, but MP3's can stop you from hearing all the quality of the songs you'd like to. So if there's something I'd like you (M.J.) to try...it's posting two versions of the song..but you say, "How can I?"

    Encode one version in a quick and dirty 128 bitrate format and another in 256 bitrate format. Several reports have indicated that the 256 bitrate MP3 is the format in which even purists and audiophiles can't detect losses. Even better but more resource intensive would be SHN format! :D Thanks either way!!
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @12:26PM (#23811)
  • Maybe there's a very good reason why these songs were not released in the first place? Maybe they actually suck?
    It's quite exciting, of course, but I think they might disappoint those who expect songs of the same standard as before.
    If they are actually good, why didn't Moz release them?
    Puppet on string <[email protected]> -- Friday February 01 2002, @01:01PM (#23815)
    (User #2114 Info)
    Everyday I have the blues!
  • i visited his site in early december and it said then that the new site, featuring these unheard songs, would be online by the second week in december. i've been visiting frequently since then, only to find it still not up and running.

    could it be true that i will finally get to hear them in a week??
    Natasha <[email protected]> -- Friday February 01 2002, @01:49PM (#23822)
    (User #2836 Info | http://uk.geocities.com/tania_bunbury/index.html)
    i am repressed, but i'm remarkably dressed
  • mmmmmmmm. I hope there are some new tracks as well as different mixes, but I expect that would be too much to hope for.
    delicado -- Friday February 01 2002, @03:17PM (#23829)
    (User #2948 Info | http://www.musicaltaste.com/)
    ...and when I fell on the floor, I drank more...
  • Just so everyone doesn't get too excited, these are not totally new tracks. They will be more of alternative takes, mixes, and version of old Smiths songs. There are no completely "new" Smiths tracks.
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @03:22PM (#23830)

  • at first i was very excited. but, now i am afraid it'll just be drumming bits. :P
    bernard -- Friday February 01 2002, @05:13PM (#23839)
    (User #3004 Info)
    ...and like all ugly things, it fell in love.
  • Whatever is posted will be uninterestng rehearsals of odd ,and perhaps, interesting outake mixes. There is no high quality wine lehft in the Smiths cellar....
    Anonymous -- Friday February 01 2002, @08:38PM (#23850)
  • Even so I wont hold my baited breath....
    never hope to high, because then you'll have further to fall!
    Vicar <[email protected]> -- Friday February 01 2002, @11:16PM (#23859)
    (User #4259 Info)
    I know I'm unlovable, you dont have to tell me!
  • People who slag off Mike Joyce and slam him as talentless or whatever are full of shit. If you want to slag people off, what about Warner Brothers who ignore unreleased outtakes/sessions and released the same old trash? Mike Joyce is a very talented drummer, and it's a damned hard instrument to play. I'm just glad that there are still some artists/musicians that care for fans.
    Spring-Heeled Fish <[email protected]> -- Saturday February 02 2002, @01:36PM (#23880)
    (User #1479 Info)
    Throw your NME copy onto the fire, come out and find the one you love!!!
  • Mike Joyce, and I repeat myself here, is one of the nicest people I have ever met.
    I am sure that I will love whatever he chooses to share and I know he's just got the love of the music in his intentions,

    MUCH appreciated,
    THANKS MIKE!!! :)
    Anonymous -- Sunday February 03 2002, @12:16PM (#23908)
  • to be honest i dont think i need any different mixes. i already own about 7 different versions of Hand In Glove and about 10 versions of This Charming Man.
    Lets all keep all our fingers crossed for new tracks or maybe a good remix of How soon is now. ive only got 2 versions of that.
    Good Night and Thankyou
    Anonymous Rick -- Monday February 04 2002, @03:00AM (#23935)
    (User #2987 Info)
  • I've never been in such a deep fanship of a band like in the Smith case. Hearing of "new-old" material puts me into an excitement that would be rather suitable for a teenager. I simply want to own everything this band has ever produced.

    Hey Mike, maybe I would like you, if only I could see you, if only I could meet you...
    family lines end -- Monday February 04 2002, @03:04PM (#23983)
    (User #1252 Info)
    Please don't put your life in the hand of a rock 'n' roll band...
  • I have had a chance to hear at least one of these tracks, as had anyone who attended the first Smiths convention in Los Angeles a few years back..the one that Mike and Andy attended. Mike played at least a couple of them for the crowd.I can recall a different version of Rubber Ring with a more aggressive style, different background vocals and maybe even trumpets?! It's a bit blurry now. Others must have been there, help me out! I just figured it would all surface in the box set one day. These will only be different versions of released Smiths songs, unless Mike has some post-Johnny recordings before the rest of the band completely folded..wouldn't that be interesting....
    Schiele Take A Bow <[email protected]> -- Tuesday February 05 2002, @02:06PM (#24091)
    (User #3198 Info)
    "I just haven't earned it yet, baby"
  • he takes the inevitable stab at Moz. (deserved?)

    there's also a section on the site where you can ask Mike questions directly... he's already answered some. he says there's "quite a bit" of new Smiths stuff.

    (from the site...)

    -

    AUDIO NEWS

    Statement From Mike Joyce

    "Hello People...

    Due to the legal implications of putting up the Smiths tracks. I am currently seeking advice as to the best way to get these tracks heard. I will keep you informed of any progress. Sorry About the delay.

    Love and Peace

    Mike

    P.S. There is only one factor in this that is stopping me from putting these tracks up on this site. I'm sure you all know what/who that is....."
    carlos -- Friday March 01 2002, @08:59AM (#25366)
    (User #1308 Info | http://www.facebook.com/djceremony)
    "This world may lack style, I know..."
  • Who else thinks the guy's actually got nothing?
    18th pale descendant <[email protected]> -- Monday March 04 2002, @06:28PM (#25573)
    (User #3874 Info)
    a little cloak-and-dagger

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