posted by davidt on Thursday March 10 2005, @10:00AM
Derick Greene writes:

Thomas Dolby mentions Morrissey in an interview for The Onion's A.V. Club.

Last paragraph below addresses Morrissey.

O: Being a pop star in the UK for the time that you were, did you have to deal much with the notorious snobbery of the British press?

TDR: Yeah. It was very discouraging, really. The press is very snooty. It's hard, when you know that a magazine has come out with a review of your work, not to read it. But I taught myself to ignore it, because chances were it would be a bad review, not because I'm me, but because journalists aren't cool unless they slag off 99 percent of what they review.

And there's no way I would've been popular in Britain at the time, because I was never viewed as indigenous. The British are incredible at poaching cultures from elsewhere in the world, and just twisting them a bit and making them their own, whether it's blues music with people like Eric Clapton and the Stones, or reggae music with The Police, or African music with Malcolm McLaren, or Chicago house music, or whatever. We've always been incredibly good at this sort of imperialistic thing of bringing back the spoils of our plunders overseas and putting a unique twist on them, and a little bit of dry British humor. And I think that deep down, we have a deep guilt complex about that. So I think that what we do is we try to imbue our own homegrown musicians with a sort of indigenous nature.

People would like to believe that Morrissey lived in a housing project on the outskirts of Manchester, and that he got up every day, dressed in rags, and wrote a couple of heartbreaking songs before his tea brewed. But by the time most people had heard of Morrissey, he was already a millionaire. I've got nothing against him. I think that's great. But it's an unfair requirement to make of musicians to expect them to have no shoes on their feet, or it's not "authentic." That's not reasonable. That was one of the many things that made me uncomfortable in Britain at the time, when I was there.
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  • Haven't heard from this guy since forevah...Nice comments, but how does he know that Morrissey didn't continue to dress in rags and brew tea *after* he became a millionaire?
    king leer -- Thursday March 10 2005, @10:08AM (#153733)
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  • A dead on observation. Very insightful. Dare I say, this is perhaps the most insightful qoute of british pop music ever.
    Anonymous -- Thursday March 10 2005, @10:49AM (#153746)
  • I can imagine members of the public assuming because someone's had a few top twenty hits they are loaded, but from someone who knows about the music industry it's ridiculous.

    I doubt very much whether Morrissey and Marr would have attained millionaire status until very late on in the career of the Smiths. They were hardly a million selling band were they?
    Anonymous -- Thursday March 10 2005, @10:55AM (#153749)
    • Re:Nonsense by Anonymous (Score:0) Thursday March 10 2005, @11:24AM
    • Re:Nonsense by dandy dick (Score:1) Thursday March 10 2005, @05:10PM
    • Re:Nonsense by Celibate Cry (Score:1) Friday March 11 2005, @02:23AM
      • sue by Celibate Cry (Score:1) Friday March 11 2005, @02:25AM
      • Re:Nonsense by Anonymous (Score:0) Friday March 11 2005, @03:14AM
        • Re:Nonsense by Nic P. (Score:1) Sunday March 13 2005, @05:12AM
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  • The Onion

    www.theonion.com
    Anonymous -- Thursday March 10 2005, @02:03PM (#153785)
  • I doubt that Morrissey was a millionaire prior to the release of the Smiths self-titled debut.

    I refuse to believe this.

    I love Thomas Dolby- his greatest album was "Astronauts and Heretics." Give it a listen.

    Ken
    sycophantic_slag -- Thursday March 10 2005, @05:14PM (#153802)
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    "And I just can't explain/ So I won't even try to."
  • Was anybody else there??? I remember seeing T Dolby along with Wire, OMD and Depeche Mode there. It was billed Concert for the Masses. Anybody have any money so we can get DM, The Cure & The Smiths to play the Rose Bowl this summer???
    Az Moz Fan -- Thursday March 10 2005, @11:05PM (#153814)
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  • Morrissey fans can be truly naive. He wasn't make a perfectly literal statement. "Most" could mean the number of people in the U.S., or worldwide. Morrissey did reach an apex of popularity worldwide with Your Arsenal, and YATQ. Obviously these albums came long after his Smiths work. His name was in much woder circulation by the time Your Arsenal came out.

    I think the problem is, is that many people are thinking of only how popular Morrissey was in the UK at the time. In the U.S., and the rest of the world, many people knew the name, but didn't know much about him. I think it's safe to say now that a lot more people can identify his image; and yes, he is now a multi-millionaire.

    On a sidenote, Dolby goes on to mention why he moved away from the UK. His answer mirrors much of what many ex-patriots have to say about it. Basically it was due to the notorious UK backbiting, and the idea that you should not be successful. You know, trying to keep people feeling as miserable as you are.

    From the comments of many UK fans on this site, and the generally pessimistic nature of them, I understand completely.
    Anonymous -- Friday March 11 2005, @02:27PM (#153914)
  • I can't belive the reception these comments have receieved. This man is a wank-stain on the blanket of humanity. He and his ilk were responsible for all that truly awful synthesiser crap from the 80s that the Smiths were sent to destroy: the Human League, Blancmange, Orchestral Masturbations in the Dark etc etc etc. He's basically trying to say that Moz is lying about his working class upbringing. What a twat. Since when is he qualified to comment on this subject? Go back to the dustbin of pop music where you belong and never raise your ugly mug again!
    Bilious Queen -- Saturday March 12 2005, @03:36AM (#153940)
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  • Is this the "mad" professor who was "Blinded by the Science"? For fucks sake. Try and make your way to the "80's Revisited" show in Bognor Holiday camp - where your audience will consist of a pub landlord and a sleeping greyhound. And the 2 pensioners - if you're lucky!
    seb71 -- Sunday March 13 2005, @02:14PM (#154052)
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