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"The Boy With The Throng On His Side" - NME (Nov. 20) article by Victoria Segal
Posted on Sat, Nov 20 1999 at 10:21 a.m. PST
by David T. <[email protected]>
Thanks to Sophia for transcribing the article and for the following:

This article appears in the 20 November issue of NME. Again he is on one of the top panels on the cover, with a little picture on the cover as well... There were also 7 fan photos, 1 big Moz concert photo and 1 small Moz concert photo which I am not able to scan because I do not have access to a scanner at the moment (boo-hoo-hoo!).

I am sure this article will rouse even more lively debate about Moz’s continued relevance, etc… Although I don’t know what the NME is on about anyhow, I mean if he is so passe why is this the second huge story they’ve done on the tour?

"The Boy With The Throng On His Side", NME Nov. 20

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Comments / Notes



NME know that if they put Morrissey on the cover they will sell more papers (it is well known that NME sales figures have dwindled over the last 10 years) yet the article inside was, as usual, negative. I imagine that most people who regularly view this site have been to see Moz on his current tour, and know how good it has been, and wonder why NME are so blind.
They still harp on and on about the 'racism' issue (the idiotic Stephen Wells in particular), when, as far as I am concerned Morrissey has explained himself perfectly well since the Finsbury Park flag waving/''England For The English'' affair.
On the letters page of NME in this same issue there is a fine letter in defence of Morrissey, listing quotes from the man explaining why he sang what he sang, and why he wrote about hooliganism/racism/fascism etc, yet the editor of the letters page dismissed it, with some response to the effect that as Morrissey hadn't explained himself within the hallowed pages of NME (even though he has explained himself time and time again elsewhere), then his explanation didn't count. The NME sees itself as the bee's knees, when really it's the pig's arse. The NME has no influence anymore, along with BBC Radio One.

Damian Morgan <Bravelive@netscapeonline>
Sunny Manchester - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 10:45:24 (PST) | #1




exactly Damian. Did somebody shoot that craig guy? I hope so.

Corey Wittig
- Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 11:38:22 (PST) | #2




Yeah, you know that the NME knows what it's talking about when they say Morrissey is nostalgic and hasn't left 1987. That entire article looks like it was lifted word for word from one of their own 1992 editions.

suzanne
your guess is not as good as mine - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 13:23:14 (PST) | #3




The NME. Well I never.Are they still going? A few points regarding this article. I would glady listen to a couple of Morrissey songs in place of the smiths songs being played. It doesn't matter if any Smiths songs are played.
And, if " Morrissey is and adoration junkie", then he's in for a good time. For when his face leaves town, I'll be on it.
Finally. You say I'm going to need someone on my side. But at this point of the century it really shouldn't be this man. All I have to say is " The year 2000 won't change anyone here."

Hugh Clark <[email protected]>
Scotland - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 13:27:38 (PST) | #4




I know the article will be almost universally slated but it was much more interesting than the formulaic reviews of the current tour that we have become used to reading in the national press. It was a good idea to solicit fan's opinions of the current tour...this is one of the things that perplexes me at the moment - namely why 19 and 20 year olds who are surely only just about old enough to remember 'Maladjusted' should be going along to Morrissey concerts. I think the article correctly points to the state of the music industry and the current nostaligia amongst 30 and 40 somethings as being an important factor in Morrissey's current renaissance.

tattoed boy from birkenhead <[email protected]>
Birkenhead - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 13:35:57 (PST) | #5




After reading many reviews and articles on morrissey lately, i should not really be that shocked at the i'll feeling towards him but i was shocked at how negative and what a sham the morrissey article was in the N.M.E. The only feeling i got was that it was a two page attack on morrissey trying its best to pull him to bits.

I couldn't believe they were talking about the same concert i was at, Nottingham was an amazing concert witch was well recieved by the crowd and enjoyed by moz, any one who has seen him on this latest tour will know how good he is looking and peforming.

I keep reading in these articles how his solo music is not as good as the smiths and they dwell on the smiths days, but he's been solo since 1988 and theres no doubt how good his solo stuff is. We all love those days but we all so love him now and enjoy him just as much if not more.

They will miss him when he's gone, at least there sale figures will....

another moz fan
england - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 13:38:12 (PST) | #6




everybody knows that the Smith's days were so great. Why do they have to beat a dead horse? Why can't they realize that some people actualy LIKE his recent work? Is that SO hard to comprehend? Although I like them both, I would listen to Malajusted before I would listen to Hat full of hallow. the smiths put out some lousy songs, just like any band does, and so has Morrissey in his solo work. i'm sure there are those who feel nothing but nostolga for him and Smiths music, but to those that never stopped in the first place it doesn't make sense. As for his statment about his music being stuck in 1987, you've got to kidding. ther is a huge difference in the music since "strange days"(the best smiths record in my opinion) and what he is doing now. Can't wait for the next great record!

Niko <[email protected]>
Buffalo, New York - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 16:03:58 (PST) | #7




everybody knows that the Smith's days were so great. Why do they have to beat a dead horse? Why can't they realize that some people actualy LIKE his recent work? Is that SO hard to comprehend? Although I like them both, I would listen to Malajusted before I would listen to Hat full of hallow. the smiths put out some lousy songs, just like any band does, and so has Morrissey in his solo work. i'm sure there are those who feel nothing but nostolga for him and Smiths music, but to those that never stopped in the first place it doesn't make sense. As for his statment about his music being stuck in 1987, you've got to be kidding. there is a huge difference in the music since "strange days"(the best smiths record in my opinion) and what he is doing now. Can't wait for the next great record!

Niko <[email protected]>
Buffalo, New York - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 16:05:10 (PST) | #8




i would gladly be the first to savagely brutalize this victoria...watch your arse in my town love....

marc <[email protected]>
- Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 16:15:15 (PST) | #9




victoria,the paid assassin,hang the nme!

PUNCTURED BICYCLE
U.S.A. - Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 17:06:54 (PST) | #10




i don't know if you'll take me seriously.
i don't know even if i am really right.

but www.morrissey-solo.com is really great.

everybody knows it.

i know that there are so many people that goes to morrissey shows just because they of this site. i know that a recent article says that morrissey-solo has a great importance among morrissey fans.

i think morrissey-solo is really important. i think morrissey-solo will be heard.

so my suggesion is: no more nme articles in this site. no more nme quotes. let's ignore this magazine.

they are really evil. they are dishonest. they make no critics against morrissey. they just do personal attacks. they don't deserve our attention anymore.

we can't read @#!!! in this site.

we won't read nme anymore.

Fabricio <[email protected]>
- Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 18:43:30 (PST) | #11




These new tour shirts sound horrible.
I may purchase one when he comes back to LA so
that I can burn it in the parking lot after the
show. He will probably play the same exact
stuff he played when he was here in October. I don't understand why he won't change his setlist a little bit more. He has loads of songs. I'm so tired of hearing Speedway, Now My Heart Is Full,
Billy Budd, and Trouble Loves Me. Last Night
I Dreamt was one of the worst Smith's songs he
could have chose to play live. If Morrissey played the East Coast, I would go see him there just to get away from the disrespectful LA fans.
I can't beleive the new shirts bear the Mexican
flag on them yet he is not touring there. Does
Morrissey like LA? If so WHY? I can't understand
what would make this place so appealing to him.
Are the LA fans the only ones who really like the newer crap that he has put out. I go to the shows out here and receive dirty looks from many
,(not all) of the Latino fans when I am just minding my own business. Would Morrissey be proud of such a thing. I have met some really
cool Latino fans yet many others seem to
be real jerks. I have met some pretty supid white fans too who support Morrissey and all of
his stupid little antics hoping that they might get attention. If I could say anything to Morrissey I would say this : Morrissey,
What Drugs Are You On? PLAY STUFF OFF OF KILL
UNCLE live! It is your best album!

Against The Family, Break Up The Family
- Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 21:38:26 (PST) | #12




Disrespectfully, the author of Comment 12 needs some therapy and medication.

More importantly . . . wonderful comments, Damian Morgan. Thank you!!

Nick Seriously
- Sat, Nov 20, 1999 at 22:42:29 (PST) | #13




Please translate this:

“My face is leaving town in ten minutes. Be on it.” Clearly, the LA sun has ripened his morals as well as his mind.

idiot
- Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 00:43:29 (PST) | #14




I like the NME. It is one of the few mainstream music publications that actually has an opinionated editorial slant, which makes it entertaining if nothing else. Their reviews are funny. I don't know why people take the NME so seriously ...

tragedy
- Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 00:47:51 (PST) | #15




i didn't even bother to read the article. for what? the nme is so full of sh*t!!!

trouble <[email protected]>
- Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 01:08:26 (PST) | #16




Tedious isn't it ? The same old accusations and the same patronising tone - as if it's deplorable to be enjoying something other than Fatboy Slim. By implying Johnny Marr was the real reason The Smiths were good, these NME journalists are perhaps trying to forget how much they once loved Morrissey - and to distance themselves from the hero-worship that (to their shame) they were once guilty of.

Rob
Bristol - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 05:14:57 (PST) | #17




it*s all very simple: you*ll get kicked out of the NME if you dare to write ONE positive word about Morrissey....

elsberry <[email protected]>
- Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 09:10:48 (PST) | #18




Well, the solution is very simple: boycot the whole thing. As long as one person buys it and posts it here, we don't have to buy it and support them.

Henrik Rydéhn <[email protected]>
- Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 09:55:56 (PST) | #19




Las' night that bugger Spike wiped his snaggly bum with a recent copy o' the NME! When I asked him why he said, "Pshaw! Ain' it natural?" And I said no! ya forgot to dangle your schlong over it first, giveing it a proper grace of pisssss!

Boz Boorer
- Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 12:18:58 (PST) | #20




Why does the NME always make us (Moz fans) sound like a bunch of emotionally retarded losers? we aren't that bad, are we?

Spoonhead <[email protected]>
Planet of the Spoons - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 13:03:49 (PST) | #21




"YOU WON´T SMILE UNTIL MY LOVING MOUTH
BE SHUT GOOD AND PROPER
FOREVER"
YOU CAN WAIT...

Maladjusted number two <[email protected]>
Lisbon - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 14:47:41 (PST) | #22




"NOW,MY HEART IS FULL"
...but it can take more!
I LOVE YOU MORRISSEY!

Maladjusted number two <[email protected]>
Lisbon - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 15:10:55 (PST) | #23




okay, i'm sort of confused by the author of post #12. does he hate morrissey? does he like him? does he have some personal issues with mexicans? a jerk is jerk, no matter what thier race. i don't think it's fair to single out a whole city and say that the fans there are rude and cruel to you. and no, morrissey is not touring mexico, but he doesn't need to as they all seem to live in east LA anyways. i can understand moz's obsession with LA, but, despite being mexican myself, i don't know about his obsession with the mexican culture. i figure he's just fascinated with those silent minorities, a la the working class of the UK as he's said time and again. i'm not particularly fond of this new t-shirt desgin mentioned either, but hey, one of the reasons i love moz is his bold strangeness. i mean, what's up with the bananna??
and btw, i think Kill Uncle is a fantastic album, i don't understand why it gets trashed so much.

mal o'nine
dreary old irvine - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 20:35:55 (PST) | #24




Hey, NME, the most racist thing tied in with Morrissey these days is your own review of the Coachella festival.

suzanne
"but what's wrong with saying that a bunch of greaser gangland Mexicans like Morrissey?" - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 21:54:02 (PST) | #25




Wow. hahaha. This article just made me laugh. The NME sure hasn't changed.

There's really no need to bother responding to this. The writer went with an agenda. Who cares.
Pretty boring stuff. Next?

LoafingOaf <[email protected]>
%00 - Sun, Nov 21, 1999 at 23:48:58 (PST) | #26




Oh, well, thank you NME for telling me how I feel! Now that they have nothing more to say about Morrissey they have started attacking the fans... The story is old, boring and pathetic and, frankly, these people have absolutely nothing to say about our lives because they don't know anything about theirs! I mean if they hate Morrissey so much why do they keep writing about him every week? Oh, sorry, I forgot their don't sell papers anymore...

gladioli <[email protected]>
Giddy London - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 01:43:37 (PST) | #27




it would seem that being under 25 and liking Moz is some sort of crime according to the NME, still roll on 5th dec at the Barrowlands for the music event of the year

john <[email protected]>
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 02:37:59 (PST) | #28




The NME is really doing its best to destroy the whole Morrissey mythe.It seems they hate him for being so popular these days. It became a cliche and the harder they'll try the implausible it gets.Anyhow it makes me loving Morrissey more than ever before! So NME, please go on with this @#!!!!

Marcel
Holland - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 05:52:23 (PST) | #29




F the NME.
I've said it before I'll say it again. NME is the ENEMY . F THE NME. IF YOU SEE ANYONE WHO WORKS FOR THE NME, VIOLENTLY SLAP THEM UP SIDE THE HEAD, AND SAY MORRISSSSSSSSSSEY! This trash must be stopped. F the NME. Go into the newstand and tinkle the letters MOZ on the covers of the NME. F the NME. They thyink they can insult me a get away with it? Oh, no ...

Mike
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 06:30:26 (PST) | #30




Nah, don't waste your time slapping around NME people. They are stuck writing for a worthless rag, so it's understandable they're hateful. (It's a well know media propaganda technique, as well, to selectively quote individuals to represent a large group of people. My record collection has thousands of albums and singles, so I doubt I only listen to Morrissey. And I assure any NME writer that if interviewed about the racism hype, I'd bury them in a debate.) This writer can listen to her Fatboy Slim album if she thinks it's so groovy. I bought that album too, and it got tedious on the third spin, but I did enjoy those first two spins. If they're gonna tell people to exclusively listen to new artists (which - when it's related to major label artists - is usually just about manipulating kids into buying whatever the record labels wanna market down their throats), they should at least mention some that don't suck.

LoafingOaf <[email protected]>
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 07:12:21 (PST) | #31




I don't know what's up with the banana either. I thought the banana thing was a Leonard Cohen trademark.

LoafingOaf <[email protected]>
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 07:14:07 (PST) | #32




Oh, just a follow up to my previous message. Don't let the music press or anyone else make you feel "unhip" for liking any music, old or new. I love Roy Orbison and Hank Williams, and they're dead and buried. I like Edith Piaf too. And many old, old people. And I like brand spanking new bands too. And tons in between. Who cares? Follow your own ears. People who stop listening to something becuase they're afraid it makes them "uncool" are people who are too insecure to be themselves.

-----
They tried to give me advice
down at the record shop
I said,Sit down boys, this may come as a shock
What's all I listen to?
It's all freedom rock
How can you free me
when I am free!
-Frank Black

LoafingOaf <[email protected]>
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 07:21:37 (PST) | #33




it's true though what she says,plus we can't possibly
need anyone with yellow glasses on,we said no to
pascal obispo("who?"-yeh exactly)so why say ok to
Maurizio?It doesn't make sense.

g.heyer
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 07:49:09 (PST) | #34




It's the same-old thing from the NME, but quite bitter in its accusation that Morrissey fans are living in some kind of time warp.

Really? - So what, I say. The music they constantly play...

And they claim that the drug-induced coma purveyed by the "90's bands" listed in this article are what this generation is all about. If you're not 'sorted for e's and whizz', then I guess you might as well hang up your boots, stay home, pull up a cozy chair and start knitting afghans. Is that REALLY what England's all about? What a $@^%$'n joke! No wonder Morrissey has picked up his gear and moved to California.

There's still a huge dedication to Morrissey, not just because of some fading legend, but a body of work which has been generally very good, and spaced with some the finest songs in the history of popular music throughout the past 17 years. If the Mexicans can recognize it, why can't the NME, who have followed every single move in his career.

There is a great void in popular music today, despite the fact that the NME isn't doing their job and listening without an axe to grind, Morrissey fills that void quite nicely.

too jaded to question stagnation
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 09:44:15 (PST) | #35




this one goes to victoria segal
dear victoria:
do the world a favor - piss off

MUGEIRO
PORTUGAL - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 11:29:46 (PST) | #36




The only reason that everyone's favourite music publication - the NME chose to print its latest character assassination of Morrissey is that they've no chance of ever getting a front cover from him. I was at the Leeds gig (my first - I'm only 18) as I continue to be entralled by the songwriting genius and stage presence of the man. In an ideal world, Morrissey would receive the media coverage he deserves, but wouldn't you prefer him to yourself? I think that Steve Sutherland only slags Morrissey as he went all the way to Mexico to follow up the absurd Moz/Marr 'reunion' stories which anyone with half a brain would know were totally ridiculous. Here's to the next album - why care if no-one else buys it, as long as we do?

William <[email protected]>
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 12:40:41 (PST) | #37




Hey #12, all I have to say is get over it. If you don't like what's going on, then too damn bad, because no one's going to wait around for your little ass. Either like it or get out of the way. That's how it is, and that's how it's gonna be. And I must say that I sure do like those new shirts, I think I might have to get me one of those. Also, before I go, I want to say peace to Felipe from the Bay, Ursula from Sun Diego, and Claudia and El Mozz from LA. C-ya!

Sal <[email protected]>
Tucson - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 12:50:10 (PST) | #38




I'll try to make this brief, but id just like to say in response/defense to #12, i see where youre coming from actually. Im an LA(tin) based Morrissey fan myself, and to be quite honest, i'm almost dreading going to the Morrissey show out here in LA. Cos im just so sick of the crowd that tends to show up to these things. Out here (i find) youll get the dirty looks, the pushing, thugs cutting in front of the line,etc. And so I do feel that a good majority of the 'moz "fans" here are to some degree disrespectful. For instance, i remember one show on the maladjusted tour, there was this huge idiot saying that when morrissey got on stage, he was going to punch him. People were also very rude to both elka and smoking popes, telling them to get off stage, giving the finger to them,etcetcetc. AND At that very same show a huge fight broke out (between thug "fans"...again...) right when the band left the stage. I feel i can speak from experience/exposure, and say that most of these "fans" are just a bunch of hyped up hooligans looking for trouble under the guise of moz/smiths fans. Just a bunch of reformed gangsters who couldnt make the "cut" in the local gang. Not trying to be controversial, or start a flame war here, just speaking my mind and telling it how i (and im sure MANY other la fans, white, latin, martian, whatever) see it.
Anyhow, heres hoping for a ...decent show. VIVA MOZ and *ALL* TRUE MORRISSEY FANS.

peace&trees

FrankenStar
LosAngeles - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 14:19:57 (PST) | #39




Victoria, I PRAISE THE DAY THAT BRINGS YOU PAIN!

Carlos
arse of the world - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 15:10:02 (PST) | #40




hey, come on, we ALL know where the enemy stands, don´t we? Again I might add that the last positive comment on Moz I read in NME was in the same issue with a full size Moz add. Oh, these journalists...
However. I had a good laugh.

Dorian Kray <[email protected]>
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 15:53:08 (PST) | #41




There's a great irony to to this NME situation, and there are many of us that see exactly what it is. The Smiths were the first of the independent revolutionaries...the indy band that could...or so dubbed by popular opinion. Morrissey is bashed and bruised for not acquiring the same recognition or influence that they had. --So what?-- It's obvious the NME has a hidden agenda every time they do a Morrissey article or interview. I deduce they perceive that record sales are of importance in determining a musician/band's talent. The mentality that we should hail The Spice Girls, hanson, Backdoor Boys, and other likes of their various minion for being so "successful" therefore "talented."

So here's the irony... If Morrissey's talent has faded...... why is he even an issue to the NME? Why are there countless articles attempting to coax his following and potential followers that he has lost his luster. It's an on-going failure...they have accomplished to show us they have been unsuccessful in they're attempt to sway us to their view. They are dealing with people (Moz fans Unite) who cannot be thwarted into praising the "artist of the moment," and are bitter because of that... like their brain-washing counterparts MTV...they forget they aren't dealing with teenyboppers that are so easily impressed and influenced by their 2 cents.

And so...there are bound to be other stories about our friend Mozzer, yet to come...because he is so unimportant and a has-been...laughing.

But I do however suspect a day when the NME will turn and say something nice about Mozzer. That will be the day I go out and purchase NME and herald the arrival of NME's sobriety and enlightening.

Javier Obregon <HeDrewAMozzerOnMyNeck>
Montclair, CA - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 19:38:54 (PST) | #42




Just a thought - this intense dislike that the NME seems to spew out every time Morrissey does something - could the man himself be pulling some strings behind the scenes to keep the mystique going?

The NME knows that the mere mention of Morrissey's name sells papers, and Morrissey knows that the NME's seeming unfairness always gets the fans riled up in defense - a win-win situation for both. Really, having the NME spout off about how the bands that came out since the Smiths split have been so great just feeds into that "Morrissey as Rodney Dangerfield" that makes his supporters back him so strongly. Sounds almost like a script right out of pro wrestling, but it could be possible.

But then again, ask the reporter to name another artist that has had 4 albums released during the 90's more vital and interesing than Morrissey's work. It's such a complete cop-out to suggest that he has lost his importance just because he's not the Happy Mondays.

too jaded to question stagnation
- Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 19:58:52 (PST) | #43




in regards to #39...when i look back on when i saw morrissey during the maladjusted tour the crowd WERE indeed certifiable @#!!!s! i posted earlier about #12, but when i think about it...yeah, what the hell are these LA people on?? for half of mozzs show (the irvine stop) some bitch was doing everything in her meager power to get me out of her way (punching scratching knuckling buckling of knees). i just ignored the whore because i knew that would just piss her off. when moz said he wish he'd been born mexican some dork jumped up and shouted at my (asian) friend something along the lines of "@#!!! you, mexico is da bomb!". please, for pete's sake, would all the sweet and tender 'hood-rats please stay home that night. it's crap, i know, but if it keeps the show's vibe positive we'll all really appreciate your sacrifice.

mal o'nine
on my way to somewhere civilized, maybe i'll even arrive - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 23:20:59 (PST) | #44




Hey! I'm going to buy the new t-shirt! and I really don't care what people say about them, as long as I know it's a morrissey t-shirt!
*FrankStar I would really like to get in contact with you if that's ok*
Now about Victoria
How can someone so DUMB sing words so sad!

Lidia <[email protected]>
Chicago,Il - Mon, Nov 22, 1999 at 23:26:05 (PST) | #45





Kill the NME ENEMY

I've just read Victoria Segal's article about morrissey and I can't help thinking the NME is hold by a bunch of real w-----s sorry "I did not mean to be rude but they are a real pain in the er.." wherever you want. This article is a complete nonsense, It seems that they have nothing else to do than continually slag him off. I truly think that beyond 15 years old every one should stop reading the NME they obviously have no respect for any artists and although they seem to stand out for the so-called most fashionable kind of music they became to me the most irrelevant musical newspaper; and moz's witch hunt is not the only reason that makes me think so. They pathetic, meaningless and completly rubbish.Hype,sex and drug is that what music is all about, maybe yes in that case I am still very naive.

fabrice poller <[email protected]>
- Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 06:56:38 (PST) | #46




I think the reason the NME rides Moz so hard is because of the high standards he set with the Smiths back in the 80's.
They were completely different than anything out at the time.
However, now he shoots for the sub-par lounge thing, when the NME, you, and I know he's capable of much better.
That's why the NME's comments sting so many fans, because there's a ring of truth to it.

p.s. and the 90's belong to RADIOHEAD.

moneychangeseverything
USA - Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 07:16:37 (PST) | #47




True, the Smiths ruled in the 80´s like no one has in the 90´s. But please let Morrissey develop his music. There are so many people stuck in the past, wake up it´s not 1983 anymore! I don´t know which article #47 actually read. NME has never and will never come even close to the truth. And don´t forget who really is responsible for the Smiths split.

To all Morrissey fans : UNITE AND TAKE OVER,
stop reading NME.

Struzzi <[email protected]>
Reykjavik, Iceland - Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 09:18:57 (PST) | #48




I completely agree Suzzi.
STOP READING NME!

An international boycot wouldn't it be great friends??

Marcel
Holland - Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 11:34:05 (PST) | #49




Well, I have been a subscriber for three years, but this year they won't get any check from me. That's for sure! To quote Billy Childish: I hate the @#!!!in' NME!

Tommy Gunnarsson <[email protected]>
Halmstad, Sweden - Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 12:42:46 (PST) | #50




DOes anyone know the name of the NIco song that Moz opened to on the last tour. It was like a skreeching sound, anybody know?

Name Nico song
- Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 14:13:45 (PST) | #51




The Nico song, I believe, is "Innocent & Vain."

Marcel: The only time I've ever read the NME is when this web site links to one of their articles in the news section. Well, OK, one time I browsed on issue at the newstand, and if memory is correct they were calling The Spice girls "punk"? Something ridiculous along those lines. Anyway, I don't need to boycott what I've never paid much attention to in the first place. = )

LoafingOaf <[email protected]>
- Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 16:21:10 (PST) | #52




hey guys, seldom do i actually post anything, often am i here. however this article and the responses it has thus far prompted stirred me. first of all, why are we letting them get to us like this. if you think "they" (nme,etc.) do not frequent this website nearly as often as we do, you are being very naive. what a riotous time they must be having to see so many people get so absolutely flustered, upset and downright angry. publications such as "nme" (or as i refer to them "enemy"), make their living off of causing such furore. i whole-heartedly agree that the article was probably one of the most vitrolic, slanted and downright biased that i have read. MOST of the people that frequent this website are Morrissey fans, but on occasion we do get some right clever person that wants to come in here and say something to provoke us into a rather senseless
E-war of the words.LET IT GO! don't let these people or publications get under your skin. It won't do the Moz any good and it won't enhance your personal ethos here or anywhere . i respect the fact that David posts all of the articles and pictures he can find. i love to read everything about Morrissey i can. i don't always agree with it (case in point above),but it shows that people, even his critics, follow his every move. as for the smiths vs. Morrissey solo debate, to each his own. both eras have the most amazing music to date. personally im a Morrissey-solo person (hence the website i am on) but louder than bombs is in the car sterio. It is all good so why the senseless bickering. as for the comments about the ages of the fans, i am 22 and have been listening to moz for about 7 years. i got a late start but that doesn't make me less of a fan, so please stop with all of the pissing contests (excuse that please) about how long you've been listening or how much more you know. part of the reasoning behind a website like this is to educate people who don't know as much, SO LAY OFF OF THEM. on a more light-hearted note, i seem to remember reading an article some 4 or 5 years ago where the author (and i use the term loosely) seemed to say that all of Morrisseys' fans were young teens and the old school didn't seem to care as much. If this is so NME, why were all of the fans at the show you reviewed 30s and up. journalists who lie. so please, all of you moz fans that frequent this site,be a little more gentle to the newcomers, and ignore those posts that are obviously here to harass and aggravate us.
--------------------------------------PAN
Morrissey. come to east coast usa. even the birmingham on this side of the pond has fans
David keep up the good work

dustin <[email protected]>
- Tue, Nov 23, 1999 at 21:21:20 (PST) | #53




Every knows the NME puts the boot in every opputunity it gets against Mozza. I hate the patronising attitude in the article towards Moz fans though-I do listen to modern music OK...digital hardcore stuff, Asian Dub Foundation, hardcore punk stuff. I am not stuck in some 1987 timewarp listning only to Morrissey sad and alone. Nearly every Moz/Smiths fans I know have ecletic tastes so the NME is talking CRAP(as usual). For the record the Manics have never meant a thing to me since Richey dissapeared and fat boy Slim says nothing to me about my life and thats why I don't buy they're records or care if the artists mention live or die. As for the NME not bothering with a witchhunt against Moz, they seem to be saying this while tying him to a stake and burning him alive for speaking in tongues if you know what I mean.

mr psycho <[email protected]>
- Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 06:45:04 (PST) | #54




Right on.

Need I remind everyone what their track record has been?

First, they announced Morrissey and marr were going to reunite and even spent money sending a writer to cover the event.

Second, since the writer had nothing to report (as should have been expected by anyone who was a functioning brain), they were left with nothing more than writing a racist report on the hispanic fan base. Which is ironic considering who they were sent to cover.

In many ways, I will credit the writers with this: I know someone who used to write for the Maker and he claimed he couldn't take the pressure of having people tell him what to write. This same person has turned around and really wrote a stunning review of one of Morrissey's shows, and I take what he says as very truthful, and I trust him. But indeed, if you are a writer starting out, there is part of you that is not only a bit insecure about what to write, but also just keeping your job. It's easy for many of you to say that you could go with your conscience, but that's not your livelihood.

The way many of you write about other artists would suggest that it wouldn't take much for you to get a hold of one you don't like and drudge up pure crap just to save yourself from having to say you enjoyed the show. You don't like their politics, or their hair, or what sort of music they do, and the people they represent.

If nothing else, try and understand the emotions these writings come from.

You can tell that many of these writers are being hard pressed to come up with something that is not very flattering. I think many of them want to say they really enjoyed the show, but they are pressured not to and that leaves them rehashing his label status and his career in general.

suzanne
Sponsored by the letters I, R, and S - Wed, Nov 24, 1999 at 12:56:23 (PST) | #55




Bugger Morrissey, I'm insulted by this article! Morrissey's a grown man and quite capable of handling the press as he has shown time and time again. Not only is this so-called "objective" journalist having a go at Morrissey (the legend!) but also at his fans!?! I love Morrissey and I love the Smiths, but that doesn't limit my musical appreciation or intelligence - I'm sure it doesn't limit a million other fans either.

Please, all you European, American and British fans - enjoy his tour and scream all the louder for us poor Australians who haven't had the opportunity of seeing him on tour. Well - maybe one day ...

Nikkie Nicholson <[email protected]>
South Australia, Australia - Mon, Nov 29, 1999 at 21:32:20 (PST) | #56






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