'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics - The Guardian

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'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics - The Guardian
The former Smiths singer’s new album features guest spots from Billie Joe Armstrong and Grizzly Bear’s Ed Droste. Are they not put off by his increasingly unpleasant right-wing stance?

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As US music magazine the Fader asked: “What possible reason could any of these people have for lining up behind Morrissey now?”

Droste declined to comment. The only artist willing to speak with the Guardian was Canadian vocalist Ariel Engle, who performs with cult indie outfit Broken Social Scene. She received a call from the American producer Joe Chiccarelli asking her to contribute backing vocals for a cover of Joni Mitchell’s Don’t Interrupt the Sorrow. “I thought, ‘Oh the Smiths, sure’,” she says. “It was $500 for two hours’ work.”

Engle says she didn’t become aware of Morrissey’s political views until the album was announced and a friend emailed to question her involvement. “It’s a very weak argument to claim ignorance,” she says, “but it is my argument. It’s not an excuse but it happens to be the truth.”

Morrissey’s manager, Peter Katsis, says he is unaware of statements made by any guest vocalists, but that the intention of the covers album was supposed to be fun. “This is where his head is at,” he says. “Maybe enough has been said with the last few albums being political.” Of Morrissey’s political views, Katsis says: “I manage his artistic career and sometimes I have to deal with things he says, but it’s not for me to comment.”

Chiccarelli echoes Katsis’s sentiment. “I can’t speak to Moz’s politics,” he says. “I’m a record-maker. I’ve known him 10 years and he’s been a gentleman and a pleasure. I consider him a friend.” When asked about the far-right figures for whom Morrissey has expressed support, Chiccarelli says: “I’d really have to research it and see if it crossed a particular line for me.”

Engle says that learning of Morrissey’s political opinions has left a “bad taste”, and that she stands in opposition to his views. “The inflammatory things he says are not my politics. I think he’s completely out of line. I grew up around multiculturalism and I am the product of multiculturalism and immigration. I feel like I’ve been had, but it’s my fault.”

The American singer LP offered a statement through a PR representative: “As I’m a huge fan of his music and poetry, I was honoured to be asked to collaborate on the album.” Representatives for Lydia Night of California band the Regrettes offered no comment, but the 18-year-old told punk magazine Kerrang!: “I’ve grown up loving the Smiths – my cat’s name is Morrissey!” Representatives for Armstrong said he was in the studio and therefore unreachable.

The guest stars on California Son are all North American, suggesting a difference between perceptions of the former Smiths frontman in the US and UK. Katsis, who is American, sees the critical focus on Morrissey’s politics as a British preoccupation.

“I don’t think they know enough about it to care about it,” he says of Morrissey’s US fans. “I don’t feel knowledgable enough to comment on British politics, therefore it’s probably not as important to me or the international fans as it is to UK fans. This whole thing has had me perplexed. The subjects are very complicated and dividing.”

The figures bear out Morrissey’s enduring support across the Atlantic. He ended 2018 with arena shows in North and South America, and has announced his first Canadian tour in 20 years for this April. In November 2017, Los Angeles City Council declared 10 November “Morrissey Day”.

“In America, he tends to be seen as the rock star who sang about queer life and spoke openly about feminism when nobody else did,” says Rolling Stone critic Rob Sheffield. “These two images define him, and he’s still seen in terms of his pioneering place in history. His grumpy old age is not really held against him. Americans tend not to follow UK politics very closely, so when he makes mind-blowingly offensive statements there might be outrage or humiliation for a few days, or hours, but then it’s back to listening to The Queen Is Dead”.




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There aren’t basements here. My mother is dead. I have a job. Try to keep up. Also, suck my dick.
Ok so she died and you never reported it and is living on her pension and welfare, clever.

No basement mean you are toast when the war comes.

Not telling anyone what job you have tells me it is a shit job which in turn explains your huge chip on the shoulder but you probably have a right to be bitter about it.

I suspect you couldn't afford to have your dick sucked it you still have one Bobbitt the hobbit.
 
So magnificent they want to push it out by two years. Ye Brits are masters at delayed gratification.
I think we went wrong in coining the phrase 'brexit' it somehow trivialised things. It's our exit from the European Union. Its serious.
 
The leader of the Labour Party has shown support for the IRA...........who killed people........actually killed people and he's adored as the great white hope of British politics by some idiots. In comparison, Robinson is an angel.
The English Barmy invaded Ireland and killed everyone in sight. They only ever leave a country when they are kicked out. Colonial colonic c***s. That doesn't justify violence, but they are far from angels.
Although a pacifist, I hope they resurrect Oliver Crombad via DNA cloning just so he can be blown into tiny rancid pieces.
 
Moz used to be just another semtex Paddy even drinking in well known IRA pubs according to Hugh. But Moz didn't ship things like U2 did to help the IRA.
 
"Nice guitar you have there Bono"

"Yeah, it kills english people for fun".
 
How can it be serious when the EU is a joke?
I remember when we were begging to join and Charles De Gaulle wouldn't let us. Then we joined and we were always treated with contempt. And they never let us win the Euro vision Song Contest. We're better off without them. People have always laughed at us, because we don't live up to our empirical past... Or perhaps thats why they begrudge us. They think we're responsible for all the ills of the world.
 
I remember when we were begging to join and Charles De Gaulle wouldn't let us. Then we joined and we were always treated with contempt. And they never let us win the Euro vision Song Contest. We're better off without them. People have always laughed at us, because we don't live up to our empirical past... Or perhaps thats why they begrudge us. They think we're responsible for all the ills of the world.
But at least your winning entry competing at the Eurovision this year was written by John Lundvik who was born in London but moved to Sweden and he is in the final of the swedish mellofest this year so he is competing on two fronts.

 
The English Barmy invaded Ireland and killed everyone in sight. They only ever leave a country when they are kicked out. Colonial colonic c***s. That doesn't justify violence, but they are far from angels.
Although a pacifist, I hope they resurrect Oliver Crombad via DNA cloning just so he can be blown into tiny rancid pieces.

My best mate is Irish.....I can assure you he is alive and kicking.
 
George Soros and the illuminati are turning the screws on Moz now and I wonder how many plans there are to assassinate Morrissey cause I am in no doubt such plans are in the works.

When Michael Jacksons Jehovas Witness family refused to support their madness they discredited their dead son and Oprah was paid millions to drag his name in the mud.

But things always catch up with people and the truth will always come out eventually.
 
Now listening to New Town Velocity. Where's Morrissey? Where's Andy?
 
Listening to Marr’s solo efforts? You must be really pissed. Well, whatever gets you through the night.

Now listening to New Town Velocity. Where's Morrissey? Where's Andy?
 
Back on topic ....

If Ariel Engle only knew Morrissey as the singer of the Smiths and with the promise of 500$ for just two hours of work...

It’s obvious she would do anything for a quick buck, actually we shouldn’t be surprised if it was revealed that she was paid very well for that interrogation by the Guardian, paid well for the right answers of course.


Just saying.


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Can't believe what I was saying about racism earlier. Oh well. I can blame it on the drink but it was me spouting off, talking rubbish. Being inflammatory for the sake of it. I truly am full of shit when I drink. Trying to prove a point, trying to be oh so radical. Stop me oh oh oh stop me.
 
I love how the guardian uses the term "right wing stance" as if the left wing stance is the most pure and holiest position to take and any tiny little inch away from said stance means you're a hitler sympathiser. The guardian is a cult rag for the litter tray.
 
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I've been toying with racism tonight. I've hijacked a serious subject and turned it into an ego trip. Sorry.
 
Can't believe what I was saying about racism earlier. Oh well. I can blame it on the drink but it was me spouting off, talking rubbish. Being inflammatory for the sake of it. I truly am full of shit when I drink. Trying to prove a point, trying to be oh so radical. Stop me oh oh oh stop me.

Yes you can blame it on the drink, Pep already has.

But Skinny will never forgive you.
 
Yes you can blame it on the drink, Pep already has.

But Skinny will never forgive you.
I think I'm inclined to blame 'foreigners' for all my problems with what I'm going through at home. I need to stand back and be more objective.
 
The past week or so has shocked me really, with regard as to how devious our media is here in the UK, The Tommy Robinson documentary, irrespective of peoples views of him showed what low life lying scum the BBC are prepared to be if they decide they want to have a go at you, and this is no different, The Guardian have decided to ask everyone they could find who worked on this record to see if they could find a dissenting voice, they couldn't.
The piece is titled
'I feel like I've been had': Morrissey's collaborators respond to his politics

yet they don't say who said this, it's pretty obvious because no one did. Yet the sentence that follows contains both names Billie Joe Armstrong, and Ed Droste, neither even speaking to the paper. In fact, the only negative anything is from the admitted "The only artist willing to speak with the Guardian" was a session backing vocalist who said nothing detrimental at all but claiming. "ignorance is no excuse but that's what I'm doing". It's amazing they went out to find an I've been had voice, didn't find one, and wrote it anyway. Just Like the BBC where prepared to stitch up Tommy Robinson by any means Necessary.

Read between the lines people they lie to us.
You're exactly right. The headline of people being had should actually refer to Billie Joe Armstrong and Ed Droste et al. After all they're being named as people declaring themselves being hired under false pretenses.

Billie Joe Armstrong: "Hello guardian. What's this about me having a problem with Morrissey?"

The only person they could find with a dissenting view was one who admits her argument is weak. f***ing hilarious. All this from an album of covers?
 
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