Why Morrissey Is Dead To Me, By Gene's Martin Rossiter - The Quietus

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Why Morrissey Is Dead To Me, By Gene's Martin Rossiter - The Quietus

Morrissey was an inspiration to Martin Rossiter, whose band Gene share many fans with the former Smith. But after years of right wing blethering from Moz, Martin has had enough

"I feel ashamed and embarrassed that I quietly remained a Morrissey apologist for many years."

 

[Keanu Reaves]

Gene were a great band, thanks.

The article is 100% correct from start to finish. I'm done with Steven, I'm sick of the xenophobic dog whistling from a tax exile who doesn't even live in this country anymore. I should have got on the lifeboat with the Farage praise, but I'm definitely rowing away from the sinking ship now.

I'll always have the memories.

I got it!!! Gene!! Of course, the dude who had a group with Jezebel!!!! Huge star. Bigger than Dylan.

Muslims are exiles who couldnt make it in their own countries FFS.
Then they dont even appreciate it, they only worry about other countries that would bar them.

Peace in the Middle East.

 

[Anonymous]

I think Martin, like myself, has always felt somewhat uneasy with some of Morrissey's lyrics in the past, yet has given him the benefit of the doubt (mainly due to his persona while in The Smiths). One of the very few times Morrissey chose to display some clarity on the issue was in The Importance Of Being Morrissey, where he states 'Of course I'm not racist, why would I be racist? What would be the point?'. It was heartening to hear him say this. Unfortunately, he then went on after to make statement after statement that once again brought up all the old anxieties only more so. He really needs to state clearly what he means when he says things like 'In modern Britain everyone seems petrified to officially say what we all say in private.' What do we all say in private?

Well considering you worked with him a bit, what were the impressions you got? King of Controversy and all bark no bite, or sometime a bit more sinister? Or no impression at all?

 

[gonzax]

I love Morrissey, I always will, but he should keep his mouth shut sometimes. I don't think he's racist at all, to be honest, but some of his comments are very unfortunate, to say the least.

 

[Thewlis]

Desperate attempt from Martin to get his name in the press. Disgusting and very short-sighted.
Moz is not a politician, he is a pop artist.
Judge him by his work not by whatever political or other opinions he may or may not have.

 

[Anonymous]

It is clear that once branded racist the stigma never leaves. Morrissey has said he is not racist but whenever he comments on a race-related issue the guttersnipes are out looking for anything that could possible be interpreted as racism , like the word "shelve". It is little more than a witchhunt in some respects. Where Morrissey does himself no favours is his continuing evasive behaviour when using social media and in interviews. Was it Morrissey? Did someone else write it and post it under Morrissey's name? If it is his facebook page (even if it isn't just say yes or no) what's with the mystery? Even when it is him writing or in an interviews he just can't seem to stop himself from being clever rather than just stating something clearly. Morrissey has been a stunning lyricist in his time but he is an awful writer. The issue with Marine le Penn. I think. was that he was trying to say that as a candidatehe believed that she put over a stronger more confident image of herself in her ability to answer questions and manage the situation under diffcult circumstances. It is possible to say that without actually supporting either Marine le Penn or her policies. Morrissey didn't make this clear (if it was indeed what he thought) and so the racism card was levelled once again. It's his attempts at cleverness that are his constant undoing these days.

From what M. Rossister has said it seems he has always had issues with Morrissey and racism. Supporting what you believe to racism is no better or worse than being racist.

 

[Anonymous]

This article rather reminds me of the all out tirade Cornershop spewed some years back.

 

[Famous when dead]

I think Martin, like myself, has always felt somewhat uneasy with some of Morrissey's lyrics in the past, yet has given him the benefit of the doubt (mainly due to his persona while in The Smiths). One of the very few times Morrissey chose to display some clarity on the issue was in The Importance Of Being Morrissey, where he states 'Of course I'm not racist, why would I be racist? What would be the point?'. It was heartening to hear him say this. Unfortunately, he then went on after to make statement after statement that once again brought up all the old anxieties only more so. He really needs to state clearly what he means when he says things like 'In modern Britain everyone seems petrified to officially say what we all say in private.' What do we all say in private?

To myself, that statement simply reflects the disparity of views in society. I don't see a sinister aspect to it. If you look in these forums you will see a form of what he is implying - people have polarised views and you will see back and forths between them. For every 'not all muslims are terrorists' type post I've seen on Facebook, I've seen a deport them, hang 'em, close the borders type one in response.
I think he is simply asserting that more people have issues / anxiety around all things terrorist and are probably saying it to themselves behind closed doors rather than getting in to social media shit storms. You can not hold even a remotely provocative view on facebook without being attacked by SJWs or virtue signallers - hence, the 'petrification'. Given his socialisation, I'd expect some Alf Garnett aspects to his views, but I'm not convinced yet he's a card carrying NAZI. I think we all have older relatives that hold slightly stronger views than ourselves that make us cringe when they voice them.
Basically, I'm guessing that his point would be that if 64+ million people were on Gogglebox simultaneously (without knowing they were on camera) that what was said about the muslim community in response to the bombings would be a lot harsher than what might be said outwardly in the company of others or online. Just my take.
No apologist here,
Regards,
FWD.
(and nice to see you back Mr. Reynolds )

 

[Sarcasmos]

Which just goes to prove you're a right-wing troll here to cause trouble. ANY Smiths or Morrissey fan knows who Martin Rossiter is. The fact you don't shows you for what you are. A musically illiterate shit-stirrer.

I've been a Smith/Morrissey fan for over a decade, and I have literally never heard of this guy before today.

 

[Anonymous]

Judge him by his work not by whatever political or other opinions he may or may not have.

Says many a Skrewdriver fans I bet. I for one can not separate the two anymore.

 

[Keanu Reaves]

I've been a Smith/Morrissey fan for over a decade, and I have literally never heard of this guy before today.

Never heard of him. Seen Moz-not counting cancellations LOL-5 times but yet Ive never heard of him.
Moz sells out 20000 arenas in MEX and the USA, my estimation of how many tickets "Gene" would sell in either location: 0
Maybe if he makes a poster with a photo of Gene and Jezebel he could sell a couple dozen.
Reminds me of that dude the Wreckless Eric. I happened to be at a restaurant that had a sign outside that said
"for one night only Wreckless Eric". I vaguely knew who he was, had that one annoying song and there he was playing the guitar to...........4 people. Fing A, 4 dudes. Pitiful. Yet, he reminds me of this unknown Gene dude, there he was playing to 4 people pontificating nonsense as if he were at the Isle of Wight Festival.

 

[Musician]

Never heard of him. Seen Moz-not counting cancellations LOL-5 times but yet Ive never heard of him.
Moz sells out 20000 arenas in MEX and the USA, my estimation of how many tickets "Gene" would sell in either location: 0
Maybe if he makes a poster with a photo of Gene and Jezebel he could sell a couple dozen.
Reminds me of that dude the Wreckless Eric. I happened to be at a restaurant that had a sign outside that said
"for one night only Wreckless Eric". I vaguely knew who he was, had that one annoying song and there he was playing the guitar to...........4 people. Fing A, 4 dudes. Pitiful. Yet, he reminds me of this unknown Gene dude, there he was playing to 4 people pontificating nonsense as if he were at the Isle of Wight Festival.

So someone's opinion is worth as much as the popularity of his band?

 

[Keanu Reaves]

So someone's opinion is worth as much as the popularity of his band?

Well, yeah, dude. In this case yes. FOR SURE>
Looked him up, he makes 'albums' via crowdsourcing, just like that raggedy kid across the street.

Adios, Dudes, dont puff to hard on the hookah.

 

[Anonymous]

Just another crank patting himself on the back for his precious moral superiority.

Get bent!

 

[Anonymous]

England for the English, nothing wrong with that. Why bother developing a culture over thousands of years if you give it away for free. No one appreciates anything they get for free.

This is really interesting
https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-us/magazine/elizabeth-gilbert-money-diaries

 

[Anonymous]

"We are the same fruits but with different tastes." Moz about Roz.

Photo 2000 in LA @ Troubadour backstage after a Gene conert.

https://www.morrissey-solo.com/wiki/Martin_Rossiter

 

[Uncleskinny]

England for the English, nothing wrong with that. Why bother developing a culture over thousands of years if you give it away for free. No one appreciates anything they get for free.

This is really interesting
https://www.wealthsimple.com/en-us/magazine/elizabeth-gilbert-money-diaries

No it's not. It's confirmation bias from a Nazi wanker. f*** off.

 

[Surface]

Well, yeah, dude. In this case yes. FOR SURE>
Looked him up, he makes 'albums' via crowdsourcing, just like that raggedy kid across the street.

Adios, Dudes, dont puff to hard on the hookah.

Gene were a great band in my opinion and Morrissey was rather keen on them -

Despite further successful live shows in subsequent years including a set at the Morrissey curated Royal Festival Hall Meltdown Festival in June 2004, Gene opted for an amicable split later that year. Gene's last live performance was played on 16 December 2004 at the London Astoria.

 

[Anonymous]

I've been a Smith/Morrissey fan for over a decade, and I have literally never heard of this guy before today.

Here's a photo of them: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/w/images/thumb/1/13/Moz-martin.jpg/300px-Moz-martin.jpg

I'm not sure if Gene ever made any impact outside the UK. To be honest, they were never a huge band here - but they came along at an interesting time, rising up as Morrissey began his creative and popular decline following 'Vauxhaul and I', had a vocalist who sounded so much like Morrissey he was practically an impersonator, and - for a short while - they were actually releasing better records than Moz. They had about 3 or 4 years in the indie spotlight, then drifted away.

I remember seeing them at the Meltdown Festival that Morrissey put on. They weren't even on the main stage, but playing in the corner of the shop in the exit foyer as people walked out of the main venue. It seemed slightly undignified, even then.

 

[AztecCamera]

Reckon is that Mr. Bean?

 

[Anonymous]

No it's not. It's confirmation bias from a Nazi wanker. f*** off.

Not a Nazi. It's a running joke in the US that all the smart people are from China, Japan, and India. A coworker from China proved this point. You are all doing the immigration thing wrong.