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    Stephen Street on Morrissey (Mojo 327, February 2021)

    Kind of a strange response to my very neutral post. First of all, I'm a huge fan of David Byrne so it is weird to lecture me about how great he is. I'm not getting the hostility here. All I said was I saw similarities in how past band members talk about their collaborations. This offends you...
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    Stephen Street on Morrissey (Mojo 327, February 2021)

    Yes, I am interested in both sides too. To bring it to the Talking Heads book, Chris Frantz seems to imply Byrne just seemed to hate working with him and Tina for no reason. But it can't be no reason, right? There must have been something we're not being told. And Byrne never talks about that...
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    Stephen Street on Morrissey (Mojo 327, February 2021)

    I also agree that Morrissey ruined Viva Hate with the reissue. Ordinary Boys may be my favorite song on the album and he got rid of it. I just couldn't believe it. And Maudlin is supposed to be an epic, it's a long drive home after a crazy night. I wish I understood why Morrissey seems to...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I noticed it on cheap ear buds very easily. But it is a relief to know a few people here know what I'm talking about. I feel like I know Morrissey's voice so well that the autotuned version of it jumped at me incredibly. I've been suspecting autotune for the past few albums now but it really got...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I don't think it's being used as a corrective measure either, but my concern is it is being used because "that's what everybody does now", and wow, can you think of a worse reason to do ANYTHING? And I personally find it to be an offensive, unpleasant sound. I want to hear a human voice. I'm...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    Jesus christ thank you. Everybody disagreeing with me was very aggravating. It's incredibly obvious in Knockabout World, it's astounding to me people don't hear it. I am also baffled people keep mixing up effects like reverb and delay with autotune. What does reverb have to do with anything...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I would assume there's a way to use autotune live but I am not familiar with it. A lot of software has live versions that can be utilized, but it seems too risky and would also seem to be full of errors should Morrissey improvise something, which he often does. I don't think people here are...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    The first example I gave is the most unnatural, but all of the time stamps I gave are words and phrases clearly manipulated with autotune. But almost every line in the album is autotuned to hell. Compare the vocal with older Morrissey albums, it could not be more obvious. I'm not sure what else...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I envy those who can't hear it. I'm baffled how it's possible anyone can't hear it, as they are clear unnatural jumps in melodic notes that a human voice is incapable of doing, but I envy you all the same.
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    https://www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/auto-tune-i-never-needed-it-when-i-produced-the-smiths-39672 "The reason it’s so misguided is that it erases the imperfections that would normally give a voice its character. I never would have used auto-tune on Morrissey’s voice for example, [Street produced...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I guess the confusion for me is except for extreme cases, I don't see autotune as a "sound." It's a corrective tool. And to me it takes away from a vocal performance rather than enhance it, the way reverb or finding the best takes would. You are taking away the actual humanity of the...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    The problem for me is autotune is not in a simple category as some production innovation or love it/hate it. The idea of autotune (when not being used overtly like that Cher song), is usually to "fix" the performance and I have a real problem with the artificiality/dishonesty with the way it's...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    To me it's glaring, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. I would be shocked if that wasn't autotune. It sounds exactly like the autotune I have worked with, when it is dialed up too much and not smoothed out. It doesn't sound like a reverb issue at all. It sounds like a jump in the vocal...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    Ok, another one: 5:23 into Secret of Music. The word "but" is a huge terrible autotune error. Sounds awful. I know this because I have worked with autotune (or similar programs, rather) myself and I know how annoying it is to fix or avoid those errors.
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    It's very obvious in the timestamps I mentioned. They sound like errors, i.e. not smoothed out as to make the autotune more subtle. But I'd argue this entire album is drenched with it. I am almost done with another listen on headphones and I hear tons of autotune on it. The Secret of Music is...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I don't believe he needs autotune. But I'm wondering why he is using it. What does "make better the sound" even mean though? What if a lot of people don't think it sounds better? What I mean is, better according to who?
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    Update: The end singing in Knockabout World is autotuned to all hell. It actually sounds like mistakes were left in. The "you're OK by me" part. There's a particularly glaring moment at 2:57 when he says "all" and at 3:05 when he says "by." And to me this is a shame because I really like this...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I don't see how the two innovations are comparable, as autotune is making something artificial and one can argue stereo recordings are more accurate to sounds the way our ears hear (because we have two of them.) Do you think I am strictly against "new things" or do you think my problem with...
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    The autotune on IANADOAC is bumming me out

    I've only listened to the album twice, but it is just breaking my heart how much autotune is present. All of my favorite singers and bands are using autotune these days and to me it sounds like total garbage. There's a particularly noticable autotune mess up 3 minutes into Bobby, when Morrissey...
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