Binyamina-Giv'at Ada - Zappa Amphi Shuni (July 2, 2023) post-show

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Setlist:

Suedehead / Alma Matters / Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before / Irish Blood, English Heart / Our Frank / I Wish You Lonely / I'm Throwing My Arms Around Paris / Knockabout World / Notre-Dame (live debut) / Jim Jim Falls / Sure Enough, The Telephone Rings / The Night Pop Dropped / My Hurling Days Are Done / Half A Person / Everyday Is Like Sunday / The Loop / Please, Please, Please, Let Me Get What I Want / Jack The Ripper // Sweet And Tender Hooligan

Setlist courtesy of Hagit Yaron FB.

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• Photo from @tomerabram / Instagram:
  
  
• Not every day is like Sunday when Morrissey’s in town - review by Liam Forberg (2 photos by Ariel Efron) - The Jerusalem Post. Link posted by goinghome (original post).
  
  
• Morrissey May Not Be Sending Flowers to Haaretz After This Review by Ben Shalev (5 photos) - Haaretz. Link posted by Thewlis (original post).
• Morrissey thrilled to be in ‘God’s country’ as he performs first of two shows by Jessica Steinberg - timesofisrael.com. Link posted by Famous when dead (original post).
  
  Excerpt:
  
  English singer Morrissey brought his crisp baritone and familiar, turmoil- filled lyrics to Amphi Shuni in the northern town of Binyamina Sunday night, and while all 1,350 seats of the restored Roman amphitheater were full to bursting with dedicated fans, Morrissey himself seemed a little, well, listless.
• Notre-Dame lyrics posted by This Charming Bowie.
  
  Link to video posted by federico (original post):
  
  

 

[Crisstti]

Ever heard of people doing things they don't/didn't want to do for money? It's clear to anyone with functioning eyesight he looks bored asf, depressed and lost.

Who was or wasn't there is irrelevant. I know plenty of people who were and they echo my sentiments. But you didn't need to be there to see evidence of my aforementioned issues; it's plain as day.

Some people on here seem to think criticising him means betraying him, which it doesn't, but at least it shows who has a fickle relationship with reality. Objectivity goes out the window. It really is quite sad.

Lol you get this mad because I asked you if you were there? OK

 

[Stella Blue]

Nowhere near as bad, especially in the present day.

yes of course, catholicism...the religion still famously supportive of women, bodily autonomy, gay rights, free speech and so on

 

[Crisstti]

yes of course, catholicism...the religion still famously supportive of women, bodily autonomy, gay rights, free speech and so on

Again, nowhere near as bad. You're surely aware of this.

 

[theprivilegeismine]

Lol you get this mad because I asked you if you were there? OK

Lmao, mad? I don't get mad with randomers on the net, but amusing how that's the only response you could manage. No addressing of anything else. If words fail you I guess resort to gaslighting, huh?

I have tickets to a plethora of upcoming shows and as I stated earlier in this thread I am actually looking to offload them to attend other gigs instead, so it's the exact opposite of mad because I wasn't there or because you asked that. I don't want to be there, sadly. Not with someone who looks like he cannot even manage a half arsed "performance".

I've just read plenty comments you've written here and realised how far from reality and objectivity you are. Especially the comment about not being a bigot but nothing being wrong with disliking Islam. You sound idiotic.

 

[Vesper Nocturne]

Lmao, mad? I don't get mad with randomers on the net, but amusing how that's the only response you could manage. No addressing of anything else. If words fail you I guess resort to gaslighting, huh?

I have tickets to a plethora of upcoming shows and as I stated earlier in this thread I am actually looking to offload them to attend other gigs instead, so it's the exact opposite of mad because I wasn't there or because you asked that. I don't want to be there, sadly. Not with someone who looks like he cannot even manage a half arsed "performance".

I've just read plenty comments you've written here and realised how far from reality and objectivity you are. Especially the comment about not being a bigot but nothing being wrong with disliking Islam. You sound idiotic.

I think it’s hilarious that you are repeating that you are going to sell your plethora of multiple tickets! I don’t understand who you think will care just because now you’ve started to re-announce it?

 

[Vesper Nocturne]

yes of course, catholicism...the religion still famously supportive of women, bodily autonomy, gay rights, free speech and so on

You shouldn’t be allowed near a computer until you can write three consecutive cogent paragraphs

 

[theprivilegeismine]

I think it’s hilarious that you are repeating that you are going to sell your plethora of multiple tickets! I don’t understand who you think will care just because now you’ve started to re-announce it?

If she could grasp what I said earlier I wouldn't need to reiterate myself.

Why do you think anyone wants to read half a page of your garbage defences/diatribe, btw?

 

[Johnnie Ray]

You shouldn’t be allowed near a computer until you can write three consecutive cogent paragraphs

Dude, just give it up. You are making an ass out of yourself. Morrissey is washed up. He is terrible and it is a sad day.

 

[Lujan369]

What happens in Europe with the war between Ukraine and Russia? I have well-known people in Spain who say that certain rulers of European countries are already involving their countries in a war that does not belong to them... What is current and worrying in the West would be the economic power of China and its consequences. The terrorism thing seems to have died down. How strange everything is not?
Obviously one is informed but I do not want to hear more and less that they sing me protest songs!!!!!!!

 

[Lujan369]

Really heartfelt words to express the pain of seeing somebody dearly loved go down so badly. I was thinking today of many great artists and beautiful souls that have gone down the self-destructive road with drugs. I feel the same is now happening to Morrissey. Of course no drugs here. But I see depression and fatigue with all the struggles throughout his artistic life. And now there’s this endless procession of people saying goodbye (Boz, Matt, Mando, Alain, Gustavo) and worst of all the loss of his mother. Sometimes I think that while Morrissey’s voice and physical body is still with us, his soul (spirit) is already on the journey to the afterlife, seeking to rejoin his mother. It’s a very somber thought.

Let's not dramatize, nobody knows about Morrissey's intimate life.Nor should Moz be held responsible for the departure of certain people. People get tired, they want to retire, retire, some believe that it is economically convenient for them to start with other projects, and you should also think that there are people who are already older and the tour trip, travel and all this is no longer something that interests them so much. On the other hand, Morrissey is very passionate and follows and how well he does!! I thank Moz for his vitality to walk back and forth. Don't worry so much, he's pretty good. It is fortunate that he has never messed with drugs, there is a work of his great mother !! Very present his mother was lucky to have her!!!!!!

 

[Vesper Nocturne]

sorry but every single one of your posts drips with a bitterness and arrogance that could only come from someone who is completely miserable with themselves

how lucky we "low iq" plebs are to have you come down from on high and explain to us that we don't know how to think for ourselves and that you alone hold the master key to unlocking the truth behind our collective subjectivities -- we had no idea that this half-written, islamophobic piece of shit was actually "good" until you knocked us over the head with your dismal logorrheic condescension

looking forward to yet another reply that you preface with your bewilderment as to its pointlessness

When other people on this forum respond to you with “what’s wrong to having some objections to islam?” a reasonably informed person would accept that at face value without feeling the need to virtue signal by putting down other religions as well.

Next time you find out that Christianity or Judaism have morphed so far from where we are right now in 2023 so as to enshrine unevolved ancient religious customs into law whereby adult female genital mutilation is forced, whereby stoning people to death in the public squares and throwing people to their deaths off buildings becomes lawful and legal remedy bestowed and enforced by the legitimate authorities for alleged (and sometimes never proven) ‘crimes’ such as adultery or homosexuality, and next time enormous geographical regions allow per their accepted traditional customs and doctrines with the full support of the law, the parading in public of the years-long rapes of little boys of 6 and 7 years and up by roomfuls of esteemed elders - not as some debauched activity in secret or at the hands of some errant tearaways, but when activities such as these become accepted doctrines of modern Christianity and Judaism that are widely enacted, culturally accepted, and enforced in dozens of countries all over the world as lawful practice, in fact in any countries under any kind of law other than under Muslim rule, then you get back to me then.

People with retorts like yours never even give a thought to the real victims. What you see as saying the “correct” thing is so far from being justified in any way that it should make your own head spin.

 

[Vesper Nocturne]

If she could grasp what I said earlier I wouldn't need to reiterate myself.

Why do you think anyone wants to read half a page of your garbage defences/diatribe, btw?

I guess probably the fact that there is a majority of people here who agree at least in some part with some of the perspectives I’ve shared - and also the fact that no one else here is having a public meltdown and hissy fit on the subject of announcing and then re-announcing that they’re ready to sell their Morrissey tickets

I can’t wait until you tell us all again though!

 

[Phranc & Open]

You do want to make an effort (which you didn't have to in the past until 2014 or so) and I really listened to Notre-Dame many times in a row. The apparent appeal of the cool late 70s disco-funk vibes fades very quickly, unfortunately. With no real highlights, all that's left are the Wood/Richards guitar licks, which isn't really enough in terms of substance. A mediocre tune that I would never have assigned to AW like this. Sorry. On the album version, this should work better, @dneuer wrote. So let's see. The 3 new tracks of QMTWD really try to generate American music of the 70s and I find it abundantly clear, that BOT was musically the better approach to connect to old glories. Lyrically, everything has already been written. It is important for him to convey this theory about Notre-Dame to his listeners and once again act as an uncomfortable "enlightener". Someone has to do it. I don't think he really realizes, what this means for him commercially.

 

[Mayfly]

Let's not dramatize, nobody knows about Morrissey's intimate life.Nor should Moz be held responsible for the departure of certain people. People get tired, they want to retire, retire, some believe that it is economically convenient for them to start with other projects, and you should also think that there are people who are already older and the tour trip, travel and all this is no longer something that interests them so much. On the other hand, Morrissey is very passionate and follows and how well he does!! I thank Moz for his vitality to walk back and forth. Don't worry so much, he's pretty good. It is fortunate that he has never messed with drugs, there is a work of his great mother !! Very present his mother was lucky to have her!!!!!!

I don’t blame Morrissey for the departure of musicians. A certain coming and going of musicians is normal because people just want to move on to other projects or stop touring (Boz). And there was also th interruption caused by Covid. But there’s the fact that many left recently. And Morrissey seemingly still has to get used to his new band. I hope things will pick up from here.
And I thank Moz for having been around for 40 years, many great songs and fantastic shows.

 

[Thewlis]

50,000 views, over 600 comments.
This definitely was one of the most talked about opening shows of a tour.

Looking forward to Tel Aviv tonight!

 

[gordyboy9]

50,000 views, over 600 comments.
This definitely was one of the most talked about opening shows of a tour.

Looking forward to Tel Aviv tonight!

yip thewlis,i call it the 500 club,when a thread has 500 posts or over,this only happens when it is really bad,M making a political statement,or saying something in an interview.
new music gets a few hundred posts then it dies down.will we ever get 1000 posts.

 

[Luxo]

I know The Smiths played some concert in favor of some socialist group, but I'm not sure how that "the aesthetic of The Smiths and Morrissey was always very clearly anti-right wing"? In what way? Seemed to be mainly in some of Morrissey's comments?

Their aesthetic was one of a slight cool nerdiness, with clothes that looked like they were from charity shops, alongside the singer's wearing of free, bog-standard NHS prescription glasses. While other, bigger pop groups of the era embraced the slick image of 1980s capitalism and the selfish, money centric individualism of Thatcherism, with lyrical themes to go along with it and played huge stadium tours, The Smiths looked the way they did, while singing about average working class life and lives, playing at more "common" venues, and being associated with movements like Red Wedge.

Morrissey went onto write explicitly anti-right wing songs (Margaret), with his previous output being slightly more implied, and the video for Interesting Drug even has the words "there are some bad people on the right" written on walls by boys wearing ladies' high heels and make up, who later put up animal rights posters in the same video, all of which are quite obvious political statements.

 

[Bluebirds]

I think you’re overreacting here. It was more a media thing, but the fans remained, as witnessed by the tours we’ve seen since.

Sure, he lost some casual fans maybe, but there have always been periods in the Morrissey timeline where there was more success followed by lesser success. Which is normal, too.

He has lost a lot of serious, long-term fans. I should know. I can separate the (increasingly moribund) art from the artist but others struggle to do that and I completely understand why.
Such a shame, we all saw the epic reception Rick Astley and The Blossoms singing songs by The Smiths at Glastonbury received.

 

[Surface]

50,000 views, over 600 comments.
This definitely was one of the most talked about opening shows of a tour.

Looking forward to Tel Aviv tonight!

Wrong as ever, most of the posts are about a shit new song.

 

[Thewlis]

Their aesthetic was one of a slight cool nerdiness, with clothes that looked like they were from charity shops, alongside the singer's wearing of free, bog-standard NHS prescription glasses. While other, bigger pop groups of the era embraced the slick image of 1980s capitalism and the selfish, money centric individualism of Thatcherism, with lyrical themes to go along with it and played huge stadium tours, The Smiths looked the way they did, while singing about average working class life and lives, playing at more "common" venues, and being associated with movements like Red Wedge.

Morrissey went onto write explicitly anti-right wing songs (Margaret), with his previous output being slightly more implied, and the video for Interesting Drug even has the words "there are some bad people on the right" written on walls by boys wearing ladies' high heels and make up, who later put up animal rights posters in the same video, all of which are quite obvious political statements.

But then you fail to mention ‘to be on Top of the Pops these days one has, by law, to be black’ or the skinhead imagery of the Our Frank video, or the lines ‘Bengali, shelve your Western plans, cause life is hard enough when you belong here’.

Moz has always been contrarian and definitely never was left or right. He always wanted to be unclear and controversial about his politics, just like about his sexuality, and he succeeded in doing so.

The revisionist theory of some former fans that he was somehow a spokesperson for the left back in the day is hilarious and so untrue.