Bowie discusses Morrissey leaving the Outside tour (1995)

Bowie news today, post an Interview with David Bowie discussing Morrissey leaving the outside tour.

https://davidbowienews.com/2019/05/david-bowie-interview-glasgow-1995/

 

[Peppermint]

Ever heard of something called 'general knowledge'?

Ever heard of something called maturity?

 

[Mauricey]

Wow, you are describing Bowie´s most distinguishing feature. You´re obviously not a fan then...

What the hell are you on about?

 

[Anonymous]

A liar beyond the grave and it is well documented how he bullied Morrissey off the tour for the simple fact Morrissey had more fans at every gig and most of them left when Moz was done and Bowie entered the stage.

I was at 5 gigs at Wembley Arena and the place cleared out when Moz was done. Touching your nose has been proved by psychology to be a sure sign of someone who is lying.

Moz was kind enough toward his old idol to blame illness instead of the fact Bowie could not take he was yesterdays news and Morrissey was more loved and popular.

Morrissey fans have no quality control, some Morrissey albums are dross, Bowie produced 3 bad LP's in his lifetime, Morrissey has a long time to go before he even comes close to how great Bowie was, fan's are like sheep, Morrissey fans litterly say baa baa as your silly words prove, you are defending Morrissey by saying Bowie was a dick, Bowie had the right to be a dick at this stage, Morrissey is now a dick for life.

 

[reelfountain]

í remember at the time local Scotch press reports claimed that he had been admitted to an Aberdeen hospital, possibly after a suicide attempt. {But then, what else is there to do in Aberdeen? Even the fish throw themselves quayside.}

í seem to recall an interview someplace with Jo Slee, some time after the "Outside" Tour, in which she claimed that Morrissey was on anti-depressants at that particular time (and was actually taking them as he wanted to do the tour so badly). She described him at that point as coming apart at the seams.

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Morrissey's bouts of debilitating depression are often forgotten. This is the most likely reason for most of his cancelled gigs throughout the years, despite the other excuses he gives. If you say I can't perform at the moment because I'm depressed then you will be laughed at, mocked and called lazy. Everyone has moods but most people do not understand actual depression and the way that when its black cloud is directly overhead, it can cripple you.

 

[Morrissey-so-old.com]

I am a huge fan of both and sincerely believe that the media have a lot to answer for. The worst of these is (or was) the now defunct eNMEy, who launched a tirade of accusations on Morrissey in the early '90's, predominantly revolving around his supposed racism. This reared its disgusting head again, a year ago, to the point that Morrissey cancelled the remainder of his UK tour, for fear of being attacked.

I ask the question:

If Morrissey was racist, then how does he manage to stay so revered all over the world, by fans who he apparently looks down on?

The same accusation was aimed at Bowie, with the infamous 'Nazi salute' at Victoria Station and stirred up profound anti Bowie sentiments.

My point is that I have yet to see anything that was said, written or otherwise intimated by either artist, to support these vulgar accusations.

With Morrissey, a main supposition was that he came on stage with a Union Jack draped around his neck, at the Madstock event, so he MUST be racist???? Well, by that understanding, do we accuse Geri Halliwell of the same, for wearing her iconic Union Jack Dress?

Bowie's 'crime' was that he was living in Berlin, wearing black and waving to fans, which looked suspiciously like a Nazi salute.

Hmmmmm....


In short, I believe that there was certainly friction between these two geniuses. Historically, this is (and has to be) the way. It is part of a creative individuals' make up, to have fractious and sometimes short-lived relationships with others who operate similarly.

The evidence is not only there with the breakdown of their 'friendship' but also in the similar attacks by nasty and jealous journalists, who lie.

I don’t think Morrissey is racist maybe stupid and insensitive to issues that are not his own.

 

[Morrissey-so-old.com]

Morrissey's bouts of debilitating depression are often forgotten. This is the most likely reason for most of his cancelled gigs throughout the years, despite the other excuses he gives. If you say I can't perform at the moment because I'm depressed then you will be laughed at, mocked and called lazy. Everyone has moods but most people do not understand actual depression and the way that when its black cloud is directly overhead, it can cripple you.

Nah this is a guy that decides to say I don’t feel like playing tonight’s show I don’t play it, Morrissey is the type of guy that does that type of shit, it’s like you waking up and saying f*** I don’t feel like going to work today you know what I’m calling out of work today f*** it, I honestly believe it’s as simple as that if he doesn’t feel like doing it he just won’t do it.

 

[Uncleskinny]

I am a huge fan of both and sincerely believe that the media have a lot to answer for. The worst of these is (or was) the now defunct eNMEy, who launched a tirade of accusations on Morrissey in the early '90's, predominantly revolving around his supposed racism. This reared its disgusting head again, a year ago, to the point that Morrissey cancelled the remainder of his UK tour, for fear of being attacked.

I ask the question:

If Morrissey was racist, then how does he manage to stay so revered all over the world, by fans who he apparently looks down on?

The same accusation was aimed at Bowie, with the infamous 'Nazi salute' at Victoria Station and stirred up profound anti Bowie sentiments.

My point is that I have yet to see anything that was said, written or otherwise intimated by either artist, to support these vulgar accusations.

With Morrissey, a main supposition was that he came on stage with a Union Jack draped around his neck, at the Madstock event, so he MUST be racist???? Well, by that understanding, do we accuse Geri Halliwell of the same, for wearing her iconic Union Jack Dress?

Bowie's 'crime' was that he was living in Berlin, wearing black and waving to fans, which looked suspiciously like a Nazi salute.

Hmmmmm....


In short, I believe that there was certainly friction between these two geniuses. Historically, this is (and has to be) the way. It is part of a creative individuals' make up, to have fractious and sometimes short-lived relationships with others who operate similarly.

The evidence is not only there with the breakdown of their 'friendship' but also in the similar attacks by nasty and jealous journalists, who lie.

Morrissey cancelled the remainder of his UK tour, for fear of being attacked.

This never happened and you will find zero proof that it did for the reasons you say. You have just made something up to try and make a point.

 

[vegan cro spirit 333]

I am a huge fan of both and sincerely believe that the media have a lot to answer for. The worst of these is (or was) the now defunct eNMEy, who launched a tirade of accusations on Morrissey in the early '90's, predominantly revolving around his supposed racism. This reared its disgusting head again, a year ago, to the point that Morrissey cancelled the remainder of his UK tour, for fear of being attacked.

I ask the question:

If Morrissey was racist, then how does he manage to stay so revered all over the world, by fans who he apparently looks down on?

The same accusation was aimed at Bowie, with the infamous 'Nazi salute' at Victoria Station and stirred up profound anti Bowie sentiments.

My point is that I have yet to see anything that was said, written or otherwise intimated by either artist, to support these vulgar accusations.

With Morrissey, a main supposition was that he came on stage with a Union Jack draped around his neck, at the Madstock event, so he MUST be racist???? Well, by that understanding, do we accuse Geri Halliwell of the same, for wearing her iconic Union Jack Dress?

Bowie's 'crime' was that he was living in Berlin, wearing black and waving to fans, which looked suspiciously like a Nazi salute.

Hmmmmm....


In short, I believe that there was certainly friction between these two geniuses. Historically, this is (and has to be) the way. It is part of a creative individuals' make up, to have fractious and sometimes short-lived relationships with others who operate similarly.

The evidence is not only there with the breakdown of their 'friendship' but also in the similar attacks by nasty and jealous journalists, who lie.

this is true.

that c*** haslaam>
was bringing in the riff raff to set up a riot right next to
the venue. you know Skinny was going to be there along
with the 'extended invisible 'surface family''. it was going to be
many twats all with no money harassing the public.
very scary situation.

 

[Anonymous]

Morrissey fans have no quality control, some Morrissey albums are dross, Bowie produced 3 bad LP's in his lifetime, Morrissey has a long time to go before he even comes close to how great Bowie was, fan's are like sheep, Morrissey fans litterly say baa baa as your silly words prove, you are defending Morrissey by saying Bowie was a dick, Bowie had the right to be a dick at this stage, Morrissey is now a dick for life.

Bowie had no message, it was just drivel from a upper class boy about upper class life and his race betrayal. Morrissey said more in one song and one gesture onstage than Bowie did in all his music.

 

[Anonymous]

Bowie had no message, it was just drivel from a upper class boy about upper class life and his race betrayal. Morrissey said more in one song and one gesture onstage than Bowie did in all his music.

Bowie wasn`t upper class but he was aspirational working class and mixed with a creative artistic crowd who helped him become more than an office clerk, just like Morrissey !

 

[Anonymous]

Bowie has a good run and had some interesting things to say about things like mental illness alienation individuality and was sure freeing for a lot of people but kinda always walked that line between good and cheesy. When Robson was in the band it was great along with the Berlin period but he did walk into the cheese territory pretty deep. The buddha of suburbia as a title is just makes me cringe. Outsides not my jam as I’m not into ambient. heathen really is the only album I really listen to after low and a few scattered songs like fame etc. for all the crap morrissey gets about the smiths bowie was infamous for paying his musicians crap for a long time and dumping them when they wanted more

 

[ACTON]

Jeez - if you think LIHS was good you really are delusional. There are about 2 or 3 good tracks on there, tops. The only argument to be had on this website is - is Moz losing it? versus - has Moz already lost it?
Seems to me if Moz wants to think about how he might ever try to get it back - he could do well to look to Bowie for a little guidance on such matters: focus on the music only, stay aloof from the political, and maintain his artistic credibility and legacy.

So I'm delusional for having different tastes to you? Interesting. I presume you think the same about people who like different books, food, clothes, TV shows than you do? Maybe you could write up a list of things I should like.

 

[ACTON]

This was a Morrissey fan site the last time I checked.

10% fans. 90% hateful simpleton c***s whose brains are marinated in stomach bile. Anonymous hateful minge bags.

 

[Anonymous]

Bowie has a good run and had some interesting things to say about things like mental illness alienation individuality and was sure freeing for a lot of people but kinda always walked that line between good and cheesy. When Robson was in the band it was great along with the Berlin period but he did walk into the cheese territory pretty deep. The buddha of suburbia as a title is just makes me cringe. Outsides not my jam as I’m not into ambient. heathen really is the only album I really listen to after low and a few scattered songs like fame etc. for all the crap morrissey gets about the smiths bowie was infamous for paying his musicians crap for a long time and dumping them when they wanted more

The Buddha of Suburbia was written as music inspired by the novel by Hanif Kureishi and served as a soundtrack to the BBC dramatisation. The title is that of the novel.

 

[Anonymous]

10% fans. 90% hateful simpleton c***s whose brains are marinated in stomach bile. Anonymous hateful minge bags.

You having a bad day? Hemorrhoids playing up?

 

[Anonymous]

I'm just sad that no one has told me how stupid I am for my post about post-WWII England. Maybe that dude is too busy reading @realitybites posts from five years ago to bother with me right now.

I thought it was better to greet your post with silence and allow you to figure out on your own how poorly informed it was. You're a big boy now, you can come to these realizations for yourself without me assisting you along that path.

 

[Anonymous]

Bowie wasn`t upper class but he was aspirational working class and mixed with a creative artistic crowd who helped him become more than an office clerk, just like Morrissey !

Hahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

More laughs and already laughing at Barca.

Thank you!

 

[Anonymous]

I'm a fan of both Bowie and Moz. From 1970 through to 1980 Bowie made some of the best albums in popular music. He definitely then descended into cheese big time - but he did manage to regain his artistic credibility in later decades. Both in The Smiths and as a solo artist Moz has made some great and timeless work. He has never descended into cheese. But if I had to say who is the greater artist (and who is the most influential) - I would say Bowie, any time. Not that such judgments really matter.

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

The lack of self awareness of a Morrissey fan calling another fan base the saddest of losers is remarkable.
Everyone knows morrissry fans have the worst image ever. Mainly fat, third world types from the Americas. Too dumb to see the lie.

Elon Musk put a care playing a bowie song into space. The most moz will get is richard Spemcer naming a chapter in his autobiography after him.

I love the Moz but Bowie was widely considered the most intelligent pop/rock artist of all time Moz quite obviously has learning disabilities

Richard Spencer is a Socialist and Elon never put a car in space

 

[GodEmperorMorrissey]

Morrissey's bouts of debilitating depression are often forgotten. This is the most likely reason for most of his cancelled gigs throughout the years, despite the other excuses he gives. If you say I can't perform at the moment because I'm depressed then you will be laughed at, mocked and called lazy. Everyone has moods but most people do not understand actual depression and the way that when its black cloud is directly overhead, it can cripple you.

Yeah I can relate with that kind of depression but i do hope Morrissey makes his Austin show or i'll be just as depressed