Hillary Clinton wins N.H. Primary

[miryam_moz85]

Hillary comeback...unfortunately...don't get me wrong..i'm not a US citizen..but i watch it here in cologne at 5:00 in the morning now for 2 hours..and it's really interesting and excitning..a real fight..we will see...1:1 congratulations Hillary but nice speech Obama...

next round

 

[the judge]

Obama for president.

 

[paintavulgarpicture]

Obama for president.

I agree.

 

[Charlton]

Barack is smart, but he is no, Mr Putin.

 

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Exit polls show women delivered Clinton's victory:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/hillaryclinton/story/0,,2237714,00.html

Race, sex and religion are big factors huh? Age too.

 

[Not Right in the Head]

Exit polls show women delivered Clinton's victory:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections08/hillaryclinton/story/0,,2237714,00.html

Race, sex and religion are big factors huh? Age too.

Hahahaha! That lead-in pic is priceless!

 

[bogdana]

where's the "john mccain wins in NH primary" thread?
don't judge me. if you lived where i live, you'd start playing for the other team too. Took me 2 years since i moved here...but I'll admit it; i will vote republican when i don't hate the bastards. (Note that i did not vote for bush please, thank you. i dont blindly vote by party)

 

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

EOH HATES fake-ass Hitlery Clitnon more than ever now

EOH's heart was broken to pieces last night

 

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

where's the "john mccain wins in NH primary" thread?
don't judge me. if you lived where i live, you'd start playing for the other team too. Took me 2 years since i moved here...but I'll admit it; i will vote republican when i don't hate the bastards. (Note that i did not vote for bush please, thank you. i dont blindly vote by party)

Looks like the Mac Attack is back, congrats!

 

[Vauxhall95]

Hahahaha! That lead-in pic is priceless!

WOW! A picture is worth a thousand words...

I guess I'm going to start backing Obama. I really liked Edwards in '04, but something is off. He seems to be lacking the same spark he had in '04. I like Obama, but his lack of experience really frightens me. Why Richardson and Biden can't get a sniff with our foreign policy where it is at seems bizarre.

 

[Morrissey the 23rd]

where's the "john mccain wins in NH primary" thread?
don't judge me. if you lived where i live, you'd start playing for the other team too. Took me 2 years since i moved here...but I'll admit it; i will vote republican when i don't hate the bastards. (Note that i did not vote for bush please, thank you. i dont blindly vote by party)

I posted it because I was interested in how if the young or the men cared more; or if people were less racist; less sexist; or under less control from religion and more in control of their own minds; if how a person looked was less important. How important choices that effect the world would be different. I was/am curious of what Morrissey-solo posters think.

I have no strong support for any candidate. Obama is possibly the best of a bad bunch. I doubt I'd ever support a Republican. I don't like the 'I'm all right Jack' philosophy.

 

[Not Right in the Head]

was/am curious of what Morrissey-solo posters think.

Well, since you asked, I'm not the least bit impressed by any of the candidates on either side, even though I vote pretty heavily Democratic. In fact, this election cycle has stirred up exactly 0% interest for me, even though I've been a political junkie since long before I could vote--I grew up in Iowa, and was dragged around to the caucuses by my very politically-active dad from a very early age. In 1988, our tiny high school hosted 8 presidential candidates in the space of two weeks. And I've never missed any election higher than the local school-board level. But this time around? Meh. It's hard to give two squirts of piss. I'll vote, but I won't care.

 

[Morrissey the 23rd]

Well, since you asked, I'm not the least bit impressed by any of the candidates on either side, even though I vote pretty heavily Democratic. In fact, this election cycle has stirred up exactly 0% interest for me, even though I've been a political junkie since long before I could vote--I grew up in Iowa, and was dragged around to the caucuses by my very politically-active dad from a very early age. In 1988, our tiny high school hosted 8 presidential candidates in the space of two weeks. And I've never missed any election higher than the local school-board level. But this time around? Meh. It's hard to give two squirts of piss. I'll vote, but I won't care.

The two party system has a similar effect in the (un)united kingdom.

The next stage is you stop voting.

I'm worried England votes Tory. They'd rape Scotland without a mandate here again.

I'm even tempted to support independence, against my principles, to prevent that.

 

[Not Right in the Head]

The two party system has a similar effect in the (un)united kingdom.

The next stage is you stop voting.

Well, I don't think that I could possibly ever stop voting altogether, but I can definitely see myself being one of those decide-on-the-walk-to-the-polling-place decision makers. And that just sucks.

 

[nogodsnomasters85]

where's the "john mccain wins in NH primary" thread?
don't judge me. if you lived where i live, you'd start playing for the other team too. Took me 2 years since i moved here...but I'll admit it; i will vote republican when i don't hate the bastards. (Note that i did not vote for bush please, thank you. i dont blindly vote by party)

I don't see that geography matters. As for voting republican, I can't see why anyone would, unless of course you happen to be wealthy, then I at least understand. I think historically the party USED to have integrity or something approaching it. However, what now passes for republican,...isn't. What we have today is neoconservatism which calls itself republican. Official republican positions, noninterventionism, small government, etc., have been discarded. The current republican agenda seems to be to expand the government beyond any point of reason, to make christianity the official religion, outlaw abortion and gay marriage, deny the existence of global warming, give rich people tax cuts, and bomb as many defenseless third world countries as possible. All the republican candidates seem united on this. My union hasn't supported a republican candidate in over 20 years with good reason. Reagan was a bastard, Bush Sr. was a bastard, then you have bush jr., which I don't think requires any indictment, 'nuff said. I don't love the democratic party, but I don't see any reasonable, logical reason to vote any other way, at least until a viable third party presents itself.

 

[JoyDiv007]

We could use a 3rd party but that won't happen so I'll end up voting for the democratic candiate. Can't bring myself for any of the republicans, Huckabee just scares me.

 

[*EqualOpportunityHater*]

Why does Huckabee scare many of you here???

I don't get it! To me he seems like a good guy... He's funny, charismatic, and he is REAL...NOT a phony like Guliani, Romney, Hillary, etc.

I like the Huck!

Last night at the Fox News Republican Debate, Fred "dead" Thompson went after the Huckster really hardcore, him and McGeezer teamed up against him.... he handled himself really well. I saw him like an hour ago on MSNBC and he said that Fred Thompson needs to take his Metamucil

 

[bogdana]

Geography matters. Every state is run a little differently. In FL, I was very pro-democratic, and I campaigned for Kerry. When I moved to Maryland, I found some peculiarities; first off, it was OVERLY democratic. The spending is out of control and the taxes are seriously criminal. There are major problems here. I found the republicans that run here to be similar to the democrats in florida, its very strange. So Geography matters, a lot, I promise. I've started to lean more republican because I've seen what a shipful of democrats and nothing else can do. We need the mix to balance it all.

McCain and I feel the same way about enough things that I feel like he'd be a diplomatic, smart choice. This is not about what candidate is a perfect match for ME; this race is about what candidate is going to be the overall best pick to get our country at least halfway back in order. He ran Independent multiple times but finally figured out that IND won't work. I think he has plenty of experience, not to mention lived through being a POW and came out of it relatively intact. He's a great role model in my opinion. I like Hilary alright, but she hasn't mastered balancing personality and business. Even when she delivers a joke someone else has written it falls pretty flat. You need that abillity to charm and impress people in today's world, especially when dealing with other countries. I think Obama is trying to hard to please everybody and is coming off as less credible. His strong point is his public speaking, he's a great orator.
I sincerely do believe McCain has found a balance that doesn't completely anger one side or the other. He believes personally there should be no civil unions between homosexuals but doesn't think his thoughts on that should effect people on the state level. He doesn't agree with abortion and I do, but right now abortion isn't our biggest problem. Our biggest issue is this murderous, money draining war. If I have to sacrifice some but not all of stem cell research for four years while he's in office just so we can have an experienced, diplomatic man ending a very bloody, messy war, then by golly I'll do it. I think prioritizing my issues helps me decide on a president. In my opinion, he can make a positive impact on our economy, our diplomatic ties, and the war, hopefully by ending it. My ethical/moral feelings on abortion, stem cell research, the death penalty, education, and gay marriage all have to be pushed aside because of this rotten piece of garbage war bush got us into. At least we can all agree on that one!

All in all, its hard for me to be disappointed in whoever is our next president, because I feel GW Bush really failed a lot of people.

 

[nogodsnomasters85]

Geography matters. Every state is run a little differently. In FL, I was very pro-democratic, and I campaigned for Kerry. When I moved to Maryland, I found some peculiarities; first off, it was OVERLY democratic. The spending is out of control and the taxes are seriously criminal. There are major problems here. I found the republicans that run here to be similar to the democrats in florida, its very strange. So Geography matters, a lot, I promise. I've started to lean more republican because I've seen what a shipful of democrats and nothing else can do. We need the mix to balance it all.

Well, first of all, I was really speaking in terms of the national elections, but thats' beside the point. Now, as I made reference to earlier, the myth of conservatives as fiscal conservatives is now officially dead. The current crop of republicans seem to be intent on blowing as much cash as possible, in the house/senate, as well as the executive. Not to mention the previous democratic administration balanced the books. It is true democrats tend to spend on all sorts of programs, especially social welfare programs, however, some of those programs, like head start, show demonstratable financial returns. Whereas the republicans are throwing away increasing amounts of taxpayer dollars on our military spending, which was retarded BEFORE 9/11. Or they're tripping over themselves to give tax cuts to the obscenely wealthy, the Walton family alone (Billionaire owners of Wal Mart.) got at least thirty million dollars worth of tax breaks. You throw in subsidies (over 6 billion) and what have you and it's pretty f***ing ugly picture. Funny, they only call it "socialism" if it's helping poor people. As for having an even mix, bullshit. (Diversity in our government is alright, mind, frankly the best thing in that regard is to break the two-party monopoly on power.) This is equivalent to the fuzzy-minded notion that there are two equal and opposite sides to everything. I'm not in love with the democratic party, I don't even consider myself a democrat, I think they're far to the right of the majority of the american people, I just choose the lesser evil.

McCain and I feel the same way about enough things that I feel like he'd be a diplomatic, smart choice. This is not about what candidate is a perfect match for ME; this race is about what candidate is going to be the overall best pick to get our country at least halfway back in order. He ran Independent multiple times but finally figured out that IND won't work. I think he has plenty of experience, not to mention lived through being a POW and came out of it relatively intact. He's a great role model in my opinion. I like Hilary alright, but she hasn't mastered balancing personality and business. Even when she delivers a joke someone else has written it falls pretty flat. You need that abillity to charm and impress people in today's world, especially when dealing with other countries. I think Obama is trying to hard to please everybody and is coming off as less credible. His strong point is his public speaking, he's a great orator.
I sincerely do believe McCain has found a balance that doesn't completely anger one side or the other. He believes personally there should be no civil unions between homosexuals but doesn't think his thoughts on that should effect people on the state level. He doesn't agree with abortion and I do, but right now abortion isn't our biggest problem. Our biggest issue is this murderous, money draining war. If I have to sacrifice some but not all of stem cell research for four years while he's in office just so we can have an experienced, diplomatic man ending a very bloody, messy war, then by golly I'll do it. I think prioritizing my issues helps me decide on a president. In my opinion, he can make a positive impact on our economy, our diplomatic ties, and the war, hopefully by ending it. My ethical/moral feelings on abortion, stem cell research, the death penalty, education, and gay marriage all have to be pushed aside

I completely disagree that these issues can be "pushed aside" (With the exception of he death penalty as I don't oppose it, just the way it's sometimes applied.) especially when you could choose the frontrunner on the other side who would oppose the war far more vehemently, and pursue to varying degrees the other aforementioned causes. I'm just glad you're voting, but it'd take some pretty extraordinary circumstances to get me to vote for McCain. The ideological difference between him and Bush is fairly minor. He's also buddied up with Henry Kissinger, who's FAR worse than Bush and co.

because of this rotten piece of garbage war bush got us into. At least we can all agree on that one!

All in all, its hard for me to be disappointed in whoever is our next president, because I feel GW Bush really failed a lot of people.

Now we're seeing more eye to eye, though I wouldn't say Bush failed a lot of people, he failed EVERYBODY, at home and abroad.

 

[J.J. Evans]

I don't mind so much whether Obama's victorious, just so long as the half of him that's black wins!