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Re: Poll Request: Morrissey's Best solo band lineup
Obviously something is very much wrong with your logic and taste.
Jesse Tobias can do all the open handed power chords, dips and intense facial expressions he likes but he is still a horrid guitar player and songwriter. I've seen people who take home videos of themselves and post it on YouTube who are more proficient than Jesse Tobias. Tobias has single-handedly led Morrissey down an abysmal path of mediocrity and career stagnation through his poor writing and butchering of other people's work, both live and in the studio.
If Morrissey is content with keeping Tobias in the band, then he may as well just commit career suicide now and save us all the torture of another album.
So you're willing to take someone who "isn't an overly excellent guitarist" (your words) over someone who is superior in both performing and songwriting simply because you feel he is "dull onstage" (your words again)?Well we must respectfully agree to disagree when it comes to jesse. My preference of Solomon over Gary is nothing to do with aesthetics even though you're probably not addressing me personally alone here, as a straight guy I really couldn't care who looks like what.. but he has flare and the most interesting bass that a Morrissey band member has produced in a long time. Gary is ok, but to me he's just an average bass player, he did his job but he didn't seem to excell in any way .. Solomon has made his mark and I don't think it's detracted from the songs so I'm all for more of him.
I don't think Tobias is an overly excellent guitarist, I'm sure Morrissey can find much better, he's written some very average songs for Moz .. I really like OK by myself and All you need is me though .. but I just prefer his stage presence and I find his rendition of songs pretty good ... I'm a fan of the new harder edged TCM, sure it isn't as delicate as the original and some may argue it's uglier for lack of a better term, but it's not bad, it's just different.
Like I say though, basing my best band formation purely on live performances, if it were studio/song writing partnerships then Alain would replace Jesse for sure. Jesse to me a good session muso, can handle a guitar well but shouldn't be included in the creative process.
I found Alain quite dull on stage besides his odd banter with Moz and since Boz doesn't do his dance routines anymore Jesse just brings a bit of spice to the stage, he'll come out of his shell a bit and walk around and act like he's getting into the show ... Alain for the most part just seemed to stand stionary and play likewise and even more so with Gary. Of course no one wants or expects them to take over and become focal points of the gig but lifeless bands bore the hell out of me, show some passion.
Obviously something is very much wrong with your logic and taste.
Jesse Tobias can do all the open handed power chords, dips and intense facial expressions he likes but he is still a horrid guitar player and songwriter. I've seen people who take home videos of themselves and post it on YouTube who are more proficient than Jesse Tobias. Tobias has single-handedly led Morrissey down an abysmal path of mediocrity and career stagnation through his poor writing and butchering of other people's work, both live and in the studio.
If Morrissey is content with keeping Tobias in the band, then he may as well just commit career suicide now and save us all the torture of another album.