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100%. Moz had it all for the taking, but blew it by being awkward, obstructive, failing to play shows/tours he's been contracted to - such as NY/LA arena shows in 1994, and ducking out of The Bowie tour in 1995 - and generally deliberately avoiding what audiences wanted. If he'd taken the Depeche Mode route, and punters knew he'd turn up and that they were getting a decent 2 hour show with a stable band, and 12 hit singles at the end, he'll sell a f*** of a lot more tickets.This is the true pity. Morrissey could be a global phenomenon and selling out stadiums like the Cure or Depeche Mode if he'd played his cards right. He has the talent and the back catalog for it. Instead he is a washed up, small act, groveling for Miley Cyrus crumbs. Sad.
I'm not totally clear... would Capitol have still released BOT without Miley on the record... or do they not want to be involved any longer?I think Morrissey should let the album come out without Miley, I really should. Just mute her vocal and move on, unlock his career. This could all be sorted in a day.
If he is so desperate for us to hear her vocal he can arrange for it to be leaked after the album has launched. Everyone now knows it’s her, if he times it right he could get a bit of second phase interest in the song and maybe the album. Not something her generally gets.
I agree to an extent and had Morrissey been honest about that, we'd all have respected it. Instead, he's citing conspiracy theories for why BOT wasn't released when he knew damn well the real reason. Did he honestly think that no one in the know would speak up? It just makes him look foolish on every level.It's very simple. Because one 'side' is a great artist who changed the way we think about pop music. And the other is some guy from a management company. I'm gonna cut Morrissey some slack for that reason alone. Ultimately this all boils down to Morrissey not wanting to change a track that he recorded with another artist and that he thought was 'perfect' as it was. There is something admirable about that. Could he have handled this better? Of course. But we all make mistakes.
Yes. They ‘would’ have released it without Miley, that is the reason this is all blowing up in Morrissey’s face, they were happy to proceed but he wouldn’t budge on removing Miley after he had announced she was on the record (with he wasn’t supposed to do)I'm not totally clear... would Capitol have still released BOT without Miley on the record... or do they not want to be involved any longer?
He could have also reformed the Smiths for record paydays. But he didn't. And I respect him more for it. Moz doesn't care about selling out bigger venues or doing easy things that would make him more money. You can point to this current spat as petty and beneath him, but he has always done things like this. He has always pushed back against authority figures and the business of the record industry. This is the same person who wrote The Queen is Dead, Margaret on the Guillotine, Frankly Mr. Shankly, etc... For better or worse, he hasn't changed.100%. Moz had it all for the taking, but blew it by being awkward, obstructive, failing to play shows/tours he's been contracted to - such as NY/LA arena shows in 1994, and ducking out of The Bowie tour in 1995 - and generally deliberately avoiding what audiences wanted. If he'd taken the Depeche Mode route, and punters knew he'd turn up and that they were getting a decent 2 hour show with a stable band, and 12 hit singles at the end, he'll sell a f*** of a lot more tickets.
Imagine a Moz setlist where every night, you'd get 12 of the following : Hand In Glove, This Charming Man, William, How Soon Is Now, Thorn, Bigmouth, Light, Girlfriend, Stop Me, Last Night, Suedehead, Sunday, Playboys, Interesting Drug, November, Our Frank, Sing Your Life [last seen in 1991!!], We Hate It, Fatty, Certain People, The More You Ignore Me, Boxers, Boy Racer, Dagenham Dave, Alma Matters, Irish Blood, First of The Gang..
AC/DC do it. Depeche do it. New Order do it. And that's why they sell bigger venues than Our Moz.
I wouldn’t read anything into it. Anyone can edit it.Any theories why the tracklist on Wikipedia has changed.
But Morrissey didn't need to re-record the entire album. If he had just agreed to have another vocalist replace Miley's backing vocals then 'Bonfire' would have been released, and all of this drama would have been avoided.he really screwed the pooch by not re-recording Bonfire with Alain and an actual band when they recorded Without Music with Joe Chiccarelli.
I imagine after the fly pass over the Capitol building and putting a picture of their CEO on his official site with a bitchy comment underneath, at this stage all Capitol want is their "small advance" back.I'm not totally clear... would Capitol have still released BOT without Miley on the record... or do they not want to be involved any longer?
He could have also reformed the Smiths for record paydays. But he didn't. And I respect him more for it. Moz doesn't care about selling out bigger venues or doing easy things that would make him more money. You can point to this current spat as petty and beneath him, but he has always done things like this. He has always pushed back against authority figures and the business of the record industry. This is the same person who wrote The Queen is Dead, Margaret on the Guillotine, Frankly Mr. Shankly, etc... For better or worse, he hasn't changed.
Strange that no one has taken credit for the plane over Capitol... or did they and I missed it?I imagine after the fly pass over the Capitol building and putting a picture of their CEO on his official site with a bitchy comment underneath, at this stage all Capitol want is their "small advance" back.
It's this dick: https://www.morrissey-solo.com/threads/anyone-in-the-la-area-want-to-make-some-easy-money.151543/Who the f*** actually IS Terrence Stamp????????
It was that Terrance Stamp guy. He appears to have met Morrissey twice on this tour so I wonder if he told him what he'd done Perhaps Mozi will ban him from future shows as this stunt has caused a lorra lorra trouble!Strange that no one has taken credit for the plane over Capitol... or did they and I missed it?
Morrissey nunca dijo que fuera por el título. Eso fue sólo un chisme.
No, not at all. I don't need any drugs to express myself, I'm not a slave to that, the dollar counted with liqui has me fed upAre you high?
Just going to leave this here100%. Moz had it all for the taking, but blew it by being awkward, obstructive, failing to play shows/tours he's been contracted to - such as NY/LA arena shows in 1994, and ducking out of The Bowie tour in 1995 - and generally deliberately avoiding what audiences wanted. If he'd taken the Depeche Mode route, and punters knew he'd turn up and that they were getting a decent 2 hour show with a stable band, and 12 hit singles at the end, he'll sell a f*** of a lot more tickets.
Imagine a Moz setlist where every night, you'd get 12 of the following : Hand In Glove, This Charming Man, William, How Soon Is Now, Thorn, Bigmouth, Light, Girlfriend, Stop Me, Last Night, Suedehead, Sunday, Playboys, Interesting Drug, November, Our Frank, Sing Your Life [last seen in 1991!!], We Hate It, Fatty, Certain People, The More You Ignore Me, Boxers, Boy Racer, Dagenham Dave, Alma Matters, Irish Blood, First of The Gang..
AC/DC do it. Depeche do it. New Order do it. And that's why they sell bigger venues than Our Moz.
Somehow, the name Scott Rodger reminds me of John Riggers, who might have been Morrissey. Think about it.Scott Rodger come, Scott Rodger go, but all the young people, they must fall in love!