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bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
Yes, of course, the central question here is whether I've gotten round to putting Dave and his feculent bilge on ignore yet, not his incessant trolling and his nastiness towards someone who has just lost his mother. Shows the state of this forum.
If I read it correctly he thought I was posting about losing my mother as a 'sarcastic post.' He needs help, actual help. Not a single other person on the site, not even others I've had disagreements with (yourself being an example) was f***ed up enough in their own head to interpret it that way, and I must say to everyone that did offer their condolences, they were gratefully received, even if we are just strangers on a Morrissey website.

I'll say it again, the dude so deranged he thought I might be making it up. Jesus f***ing Christ.

He is right about one thing, I'll be leaving it alone from here on it, but yeah Dave congrats you finally got under my skin, the one time I thought you might be actually humane and offer me some sympathy you instead chose to act like a c***. My only surprise is that I'm surprised.
 

rifke

bodhisattva
The central question is why you call people "interloper" for offering their opinion but it doesn't apply to you. And if people don't want "nastiness" when they're going through a rough time maybe it would be wiser not to start something. I'm well aware that I can't respond without looking bad which is exactly why I chose not to and was pulled into it anyway.
Why are you even here when you should be out taking selfies on the beach?
actually you could've responded without looking bad. fate provided you with an opportunity to actually show that it might be plausible that you are a decent person in real life and you utterly blew it.
 

The.Truth.

about Ruth
If I read it correctly he thought I was posting about losing my mother as a 'sarcastic post.' He needs help, actual help. Not a single other person on the site, not even others I've had disagreements with (yourself being an example) was f***ed up enough in their own head to interpret it that way, and I must say to everyone that did offer their condolences, they were gratefully received, even if we are just strangers on a Morrissey website.

I'll say it again, the dude so deranged he thought I might be making it up. Jesus f***ing Christ.

He is right about one thing, I'll be leaving it alone from here on it, but yeah Dave congrats you finally got under my skin, the one time I thought you might be actually humane and offer me some sympathy you instead chose to act like a c***. My only surprise is that I'm surprised.
No, it's not the subject matter that made it sarcastic. It's the idea that you would have to say you're sorry that you haven't responded to being @'ed because of this event which I recognize is devastating. As I said, I might have thought it was open to question until your second post where you were, again, writing sarcastically asking if I understood that you were busy.
I didn't suggest you were "making it up," ever.

I am sorry if, in the past, I hurt your feelings and caused some kind of a problem that led to all of this. I was not aware that you had that much anger towards me.
I am not sorry I responded to your post by ignoring it. I read it how I read it. I did not say you made it up and that is not what "sarcastic" means.
Either way, glad to hear this is the end of it.
 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
No, it's not the subject matter that made it sarcastic. It's the idea that you would have to say you're sorry that you haven't responded to being @'ed because of this event which I recognize is devastating. As I said, I might have thought it was open to question until your second post where you were, again, writing sarcastically asking if I understood that you were busy.
I didn't suggest you were "making it up," ever.

I am sorry if, in the past, I hurt your feelings and caused some kind of a problem that led to all of this. I was not aware that you had that much anger towards me.
I am not sorry I responded to your post by ignoring it. I read it how I read it. I did not say you made it up and that is not what "sarcastic" means.
Either way, glad to hear this is the end of it.
You've never angered me before Palooka and I doubt you'll ever anger me again, you don't possess either the intellect nor the trolling skills. You angered me this one time and that had more to do with my mother than you Punchy.

Anyhoo Dave I'll give you the last word, because as they say, 'never wrestle with a pig, you'll both get covered in shit, but the pig likes it.'
 

The.Truth.

about Ruth
actually you could've responded without looking bad. fate provided you with an opportunity to actually show that it might be plausible that you are a decent person in real life and you utterly blew it.
You're boring. Keep trying though, I guess. Not much luck with the kinds of things you attach yourself to in order to try to make yourself interesting. None of it comes from you. It all seems really desperate. "Hey. I'm writing about the dude from Suede again. Hey look, it's some ugly pants no one cares about. Hey, here's another post about my imaginary book that I pretend I'm writing. Hey, I'm still a c***, Look at me!"
 

rifke

bodhisattva
You're boring. Keep trying though, I guess. Not much luck with the kinds of things you attach yourself to in order to try to make yourself interesting. None of it comes from you. It all seems really desperate. "Hey. I'm writing about the dude from Suede again. Hey look, it's some ugly pants no one cares about. Hey, here's another post about my imaginary book that I pretend I'm writing. Hey, I'm still a c***, Look at me!"
his NAME Is DREAMYNEIL
 

The.Truth.

about Ruth
You've never angered me before Palooka and I doubt you'll ever anger me again, you don't possess either the intellect nor the trolling skills. You angered me this one time and that had more to do with my mother than you Punchy.

Anyhoo Dave I'll give you the last word, because as they say, 'never wrestle with a pig, you'll both get covered in shit, but the pig likes it.'
It's really interesting that you feel that "intellect" plays some part in this. I'm reminded of your old posts about "The Bell Curve" and your thoughts on "intellect," as you stated them then.
Just a question, have you done debating before because this is both quite good and quite slippery. I see you've pivoted quite deftly away from the bulk of his argument and not really addressed anything he said head-on. And then in fact you've done what you accused me as per the part in bold and just made a general assertion without any evidence. Take 'The Bell Curve' for instance, probably the most famous book/study on race/IQ. Unless you've spoken to Charles Murray directly and he has confirmed that his study came from a place of racist bias (which to the best of my knowledge he never has) casual comments like yours are slanderous at best.

As I say, you're quite good at this, so as someone content to sit on the sidelines of this one I'd be most interested to see you go back and address the post point by point without any pivots with rebuttals. of course, you don't have to, you don't owe me an explanation but I'd certainly be interested to hear what you have to say without any spin.

Either the earlier quoted post is your real opinion or the much more recent one is, or neither, but I can't see how both could be. I guess maybe I've gotten a lot dumber, or you're much more intelligent, or both posts are you trying your best to work with what you've got at the time.
 
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For this to work you have to say it like a sarcastic bitch, though. I really thought you had the brains to drop it after I made that last post and you retreated into the shadows to just upvote rifke and vegan cro.
Now you're going to try again?
It's one of the ugliest conversations I've been a part of on this site and that is saying something. Maybe try to pretend you have some dignity and just watch the whole thing fade away and be forgotten. The level of entitlement you've shown here is surprising even for someone as smug as you are.
I don't have to follow your script and I don't have to reply when you make some bitchy post.

And what about the posts that followed it? First you're angry and trying to say I'm a narcissist. I'm not the one demanding a response and giving you a script of what you should say. I don't think you're a narcissist, though. You're just smug.
But the point is you contradicted yourself wildly in tone and in the actual things you were saying. You're clearly lying and trying to be manipulative. It can't all be true since it's so contradictory, unless you're completely scatterbrained. I ignored your sarcastic post and you thought you'd scored so you went for seconds.
Now all those things you wrote about me, either you've been brooding on it a long time or it suddenly came to you in a flash. It seems to me like you've taken some discussions on this site way too seriously and it bothered you. OR it happened in a flash.
But you went from your psychological diagnosis post to the one where you speculated about my family and finally the one where you wished me a happy life. The whole bitchiness thing works for some people but I don't really think it's your "lane," if you know what I mean.
While I'm writing this, and I really hope it's one of the last posts I have to make about it, your little script about how "even though we've had our problems" or whatever, paraphrasing and don't care to go back and get it exactly right, YOU are the one that matters to. Not me. Trust me that I've offered condolences to people I've had issues with. There is NO comparison between bullshit on this board and what you're going through. I realize that you've had some real problems with me, but from my side it was mostly just occasionally replying to one of your posts, and not that serious.
The only reason I didn't respond to the announcement post, and I can't make this any more clear, is because I read your it as sarcastic. Let's say there could have been some doubt and I should have said something. But your followup post was clearly sarcastic, too. I am genuinely sorry that you are having a hard time. I am. But I felt it best to ignore the whole thing and would have preferred that you could just accept that.
Here's the thing, though. Even if I'm totally wrong and my "hate prism" was malfunctioning that day, it still means that I am 100% certain that you're the kind of person capable of making that sort of post.
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FC how can you be 1oo% certain when you just admitted being totally wrong outside the prism:straightface:
Mostly because you clearly are, but again, if I was wrong, why in the world would you want any sort of response from a person that thinks this of you?
I'm a person on a website you frequent. That's it from my perspective. If it's more than that to you that exists in your head and I'd rather not be part of it.
You should think about seeing a grief counselor. When you're really in a bad place it's a lot easier to feel anger than sadness. What you're doing with this whole ugly conversation you insist on having is really ugly. I hope that some of the emotions you're letting off at me are helping you deal with what you're going through. I really do. But, at the same time, wise up and see that it's over. It's very undignified to keep this going.

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you were extremely mean to several members here FC, just to show off to Meanness Central aka radish
and BGV:hammer:
 

bhops

Last of the famous international screw ups.
It's really interesting that you feel that "intellect" plays some part in this. I'm reminded of your old posts about "The Bell Curve" and your thoughts on "intellect," as you stated them then.


Either the earlier quoted post is your real opinion or the much more recent one is, or neither, but I can't see how both could be. I guess maybe I've gotten a lot dumber, or you're much more intelligent, or both posts are you trying your best to work with what you've got at the time.
#byebyedave
 
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