Stephen Hofmann
Well-Known Member
You’re a racist c***, you might not even know it, but you are. You’re everything that’s bad about this country, I’d sooner boot you out than the guy that delivers my Korma’s on a weekend.
Charming.
You’re a racist c***, you might not even know it, but you are. You’re everything that’s bad about this country, I’d sooner boot you out than the guy that delivers my Korma’s on a weekend.
He wants to lock the borders and stop people with funny accents and brown skin coming into England. An england he doesn’t even live in no more. How’s that for first class hypocrisy, anti immigration preach from a man who’s emigrated.
And to the poster who said most of england agrees with him , shite, I can tell you for fact most English people don’t give a f***, we’re proud of how open, welcoming and multicultural our country is. It’s a free world, people can go where they want, otherwise, Moz, get the f*** back over here and stay in sunny old Mancfester.
You socialist mancunians have been singing the same tune since forever and always seemed so out of touch with the times. Just cause some bands and artists had some luck doesn't mean you were ever relevant.You’re a racist c***, you might not even know it, but you are. You’re everything that’s bad about this country, I’d sooner boot you out than the guy that delivers my Korma’s on a weekend.
That has nothing to do with it. This is about a religion taking over and turning the clocks back to medieval times.like I’ve said before if you open your ears, Britain’s most prolific & infamous mass murderers, serial killers & child rapists are and were white British, born and bred here. Do you give them a free pass cos’ they’re white? You’re either deranged & prone to violence or you’re not.
As I mentioned previously I assume his support for For Britain is primarily based around their Animal rights stance and their position on immigration and cultural identity. I haven't seen him voice support for their economic, climate or defense policy for example and clearly you describe these from a left wing perspective. I would assume Morrissey's politics are more nuanced than left wing/right wing.
Morrissey hasn't changed and if fans have abandoned him that is their choice. Reports of the death of his "career" have been greatly exaggerated thus far.
And he shouldn't be. England will no longer be English when immigrants become majority. Look at the problems America is having due to mass immigration. America is losing it's identify. Moz has pride in his upbringing and doesn't want to lose it. Amen to that
I understand that you accept inevitable cultural change and are reasonably apathetic about it, but many people don't feel the same. A lot of people feel very nostalgic about their culture, especially as it appeared in their formative years, and they have too much affection for it to accept its disappearance. It's an emotional factor. Just because it's not a concern for you, that doesn't make it invalid or unnecessary.I don't think it matters much if immigrants become a majority (not that they are going to any time soon). People are people, there's no real distinction to be made between them. Whether their skin is a different colour or they speak a different language, it doesn't really matter. And it also doesn't matter if a culture changes over time. It's not really important. Things don't have to stay the way they are, in terms of customs and ways of doing things, fashion, music, style of dress, modes of speech, television programmes, architecture. These things can change without harming the well-being of the population. In any case culture is very likely to persist in the main despite immigration since the children of immigrants will already be much more a part of the culture they are born into than of their parents' culture. Children born in England to immigrant parents will have English as their first language and will identify themselves as British and will be immersed in British culture from childhood. I think people who worry about these things are just panicking unnecessarily.
Most people don't blame all Muslims for the crimes of a few extremists. Few people will blame the Muslim family next door, just trying to live their lives. They blame Islam as a religion. If Islam consistently provokes extremists to commit violent acts of terrorism, why shouldn't we look at the whole religion as potentially dangerous and harmful?As for Islamic extremism and Asian grooming gangs, I don't think it's fair to blame an entire group for the actions of any part of that group. Otherwise we'd be blaming all Catholics for all the child abuse carried out by Catholic priests. I don't see any anti-Catholic agitation from Tommy Robinson, although lots of priests have been child abusers.
I don't think it matters much if immigrants become a majority (not that they are going to any time soon). People are people, there's no real distinction to be made between them. Whether their skin is a different colour or they speak a different language, it doesn't really matter. And it also doesn't matter if a culture changes over time. It's not really important. Things don't have to stay the way they are, in terms of customs and ways of doing things, fashion, music, style of dress, modes of speech, television programmes, architecture. These things can change without harming the well-being of the population. In any case culture is very likely to persist in the main despite immigration since the children of immigrants will already be much more a part of the culture they are born into than of their parents' culture. Children born in England to immigrant parents will have English as their first language and will identify themselves as British and will be immersed in British culture from childhood. I think people who worry about these things are just panicking unnecessarily.
As for Islamic extremism and Asian grooming gangs, I don't think it's fair to blame an entire group for the actions of any part of that group. Otherwise we'd be blaming all Catholics for all the child abuse carried out by Catholic priests. I don't see any anti-Catholic agitation from Tommy Robinson, although lots of priests have been child abusers.
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I don't think it matters much if immigrants become a majority (not that they are going to any time soon). People are people, there's no real distinction to be made between them. Whether their skin is a different colour or they speak a different language, it doesn't really matter. And it also doesn't matter if a culture changes over time. It's not really important. Things don't have to stay the way they are, in terms of customs and ways of doing things, fashion, music, style of dress, modes of speech, television programmes, architecture. These things can change without harming the well-being of the population. In any case culture is very likely to persist in the main despite immigration since the children of immigrants will already be much more a part of the culture they are born into than of their parents' culture. Children born in England to immigrant parents will have English as their first language and will identify themselves as British and will be immersed in British culture from childhood. I think people who worry about these things are just panicking unnecessarily.
Charming.
You’re a racist c***, you might not even know it, but you are. You’re everything that’s bad about this country, I’d sooner boot you out than the guy that delivers my Korma’s on a weekend.
I don't think it matters much if immigrants become a majority (not that they are going to any time soon). People are people, there's no real distinction to be made between them. Whether their skin is a different colour or they speak a different language, it doesn't really matter. And it also doesn't matter if a culture changes over time. It's not really important. Things don't have to stay the way they are, in terms of customs and ways of doing things, fashion, music, style of dress, modes of speech, television programmes, architecture. These things can change without harming the well-being of the population. In any case culture is very likely to persist in the main despite immigration since the children of immigrants will already be much more a part of the culture they are born into than of their parents' culture. Children born in England to immigrant parents will have English as their first language and will identify themselves as British and will be immersed in British culture from childhood. I think people who worry about these things are just panicking unnecessarily.
As for Islamic extremism and Asian grooming gangs, I don't think it's fair to blame an entire group for the actions of any part of that group. Otherwise we'd be blaming all Catholics for all the child abuse carried out by Catholic priests. I don't see any anti-Catholic agitation from Tommy Robinson, although lots of priests have been child abusers.
I don't think it matters much if immigrants become a majority (not that they are going to any time soon). People are people, there's no real distinction to be made between them. Whether their skin is a different colour or they speak a different language, it doesn't really matter. And it also doesn't matter if a culture changes over time. It's not really important. Things don't have to stay the way they are, in terms of customs and ways of doing things, fashion, music, style of dress, modes of speech, television programmes, architecture. These things can change without harming the well-being of the population. In any case culture is very likely to persist in the main despite immigration since the children of immigrants will already be much more a part of the culture they are born into than of their parents' culture. Children born in England to immigrant parents will have English as their first language and will identify themselves as British and will be immersed in British culture from childhood. I think people who worry about these things are just panicking unnecessarily.
As for Islamic extremism and Asian grooming gangs, I don't think it's fair to blame an entire group for the actions of any part of that group. Otherwise we'd be blaming all Catholics for all the child abuse carried out by Catholic priests. I don't see any anti-Catholic agitation from Tommy Robinson, although lots of priests have been child abusers.
Clearly you're not voting with your feet - You're still here and I dare say you'll buy a ticket if he does a UK show.
I'll admit I haven't paid much attention to all this controversy but I'm curious what beliefs/statements has Moz made that are so abhorrent? Be specific please. I'm definitely no right winger (especially the morally bankrupt right wing here in the U.S.A.) but simply having right wing beliefs need not necessarily be a "problem", right? I've just been enjoying his recent albums and his being vegan is pretty neat too...so what's the deal?
Wrong again sunshine. I boycotted his winter 2018 tour for the first time in nearly 30 years despite living 20 mins from one of the venues. I boycotted the summer 2018 uk tour along with 60% of the uk fanbase resulting in it being humiliatingly cancelled. I am one of the 60% of the uk fans who bought High School but boycotted Cal7fornia Sun resulting in his worst ever album sales. Until he revokes his support for right wing politics, I will never see him again live or buy any of his CDs. Unlike Phil skinny, however, I do not hate him or believe him to be racist. I just believe him to be an absolute f***ing idiot when it comes as to politics, and I still come to this website in the hope that he finally sees sense. Hope that makes things a bit clearer for you.
But americans (white people from Europe) will still claim that they are unique in the way they work together and would take a bullet for one another.
I think things on tv has made americans deluded and they really live in the past. The way they have been fawning over jews was the start of their demise.
A lot of people feel very nostalgic about their culture, especially as it appeared in their formative years, and they have too much affection for it to accept its disappearance. It's an emotional factor. Just because it's not a concern for you, that doesn't make it invalid or unnecessary.
Wrong again sunshine. I boycotted his winter 2018 tour for the first time in nearly 30 years despite living 20 mins from one of the venues. I boycotted the summer 2018 uk tour along with 60% of the uk fanbase resulting in it being humiliatingly cancelled. I am one of the 60% of the uk fans who bought High School but boycotted Cal7fornia Sun resulting in his worst ever album sales. Until he revokes his support for right wing politics, I will never see him again live or buy any of his CDs. Unlike Phil skinny, however, I do not hate him or believe him to be racist. I just believe him to be an absolute f***ing idiot when it comes as to politics, and I still come to this website in the hope that he finally sees sense. Hope that makes things a bit clearer for you.