Makes you wonder what they've been hearing all these years.Love his music even more now. He's definitely winding up all the right people.
All these fans writing break up letters cracks me up. Hope we get some more great Morrissey interviews in the coming weeks. A culling is in order.
leave the Sweeney out of this and at least spell it right.Here cones the dumb londoner, I really think you are one of those fat people who's entire use of language is based around an episode of the Sweeny. While you insight and IQ skims around the edge of retardation
The funny thing is you think morrissey is serious and joined your lot. He's just taking the piss, again. Chris Hitch was bought and paid for at the end of his career as well.
You are miles away from getting him, but you know you can pretend the Ally Pally gig was his best gig ever.you can pretend morrissey is at the peak of his powers, that's up to you.
White prole Londoners are consideted scum by the rest of the country, dumb beer lard bells who can't dress properly. We all know you are one of those mouth breathers who finish each sentence with the word 'mate'. Man you are dim
There's a Jim Jefferies show where he talks about peadophiles and talks about how good you are relates to how much people will tolerate. So, people still love Elvis and Michael Jackson, less so Gary Glitter although I have to say the Glitter Band were a solid outfit.
I feel the same way with Morrissey, it's made me think what I can and can't do without. I should have some free time in three or four weeks and much of my collection is getting a cull, records, bits of shirt etc. I don't feel any attachment now in a collector way.
I have been listening to Morrissey a lot the past few days and most of the things that were great still are.
I agree with you here Truth. For me the crazy posts coincided with my lack of enthusiasm for his music. So for me his current output musically and otherwise is just something to be "endured". When I hear his music played on Sirius radio it takes me back to a time when I remember how much he meant to me and how his lyrics were so artful. My memories of all of his past great music is somehow locked away, removed from the splatter of The Daily Mail no matter what he chooses to expose or espouse today.
I could be wrong, but burring one's head in the sand may be the best option here. I won't let him ruin what I built most of my life around. I owe that much to myself.
Morrissey has been saying things that piss a lot of people off since 1983. What has changed? If Islam was so common in Britain back in the 80s he'd have criticized it then - without a doubt. In fact if Islam was common in late 1800s London Karl Marx himself would have criticized it. Would that have made Marx right wing too? 'Religion is the opium of the masses' remember.My two cents: short of something properly terrible - a Jimmy Savile level 'revelation' - Morrissey can't do anything to impinge on my enjoyment of anything he's made thus far. I don't, for example, listen to the Smiths these days, and think 'Jesus, what a contemptible bastard he is in 2018' - rather, I think 'what a marginalised individual he felt like in 1982' etc.
Context is context though, and now, on LiHS, with a track like "I Bury the Living," I do find myself listening and thinking: 'this is misguided, ham-fisted and clumsy - perhaps even offensive.' Seems to me personally that when he avoids explicit, song-long forays into politics (pretty much everything 1982-2010)* he's fine. World Peace... onward I have found largely intolerable, and saved only by the nostalgic whimpering of his that I've grown so much to love (e.g. "Oboe Concerto," "Jacky's Only Happy..." etc.).
As with anything though - and I think this is often forgotten on this forum - it's each to their own, isn't it. I do wish he'd shut up with silly comments about Hitler etc., but if I don't like it, I ignore it and admit to people who ask me why I'm a fan that that aspect isn't part of my adoration.
*I am aware of songs like "The National Front Disco" and "Irish Blood..." - these are about emotion first, then a political connection; they are not, to my ears, the same as "World Peace..." or *shudder* "Israel"
Great post, but how about songs like Ambitious Outsiders or Sorrow Will Come in the End, or Margaret on the Guillotine, Bengali in Platforms? They are/were pretty unpleasant/offensive too but no one seemed to mind back then, certainly not the fans/anyone on this website.*I am aware of songs like "The National Front Disco" and "Irish Blood..." - these are about emotion first, then a political connection; they are not, to my ears, the same as "World Peace..." or *shudder* "Israel"
But there are also many fans who feel more admiration for Morrissey than ever now - who think, now there is a true individual, a true freethinking rebel - speaking his mind and knowing full well the mud that will be thrown. I'm sure there are many who, like me, find the music sounds even better, fresher, more relevant now.Great post, but how about songs like Ambitious Outsiders or Sorrow Will Come in the End, or Margaret on the Guillotine, Bengali in Platforms? They are/were pretty unpleasant/offensive too but no one seemed to mind back then, certainly not the fans/anyone on this website.
Anyway, interesting to see that a good 70 % are not affected by his latest political outspokenness as I think it should be. I don't agree with his politics, just like I never agreed on his 'militant vegetarianism', but it certainly has never diminished my love of the music. To me those things should (and can easily) be seperated. You just wouldn't think so reading all the bully's/trolls' comments on the main page
But there are also many fans who feel more admiration for Morrissey than ever now - who think, noe there is a true individual, a true freethinking rebel - speaking his mind and knowing full well the mud that will be thrown. I'm sure there are many who, like me, find the music sounds even better, fresher, more relevant now.
How come?He has become a sad little man.
My two cents: short of something properly terrible - a Jimmy Savile level 'revelation' - Morrissey can't do anything to impinge on my enjoyment of anything he's made thus far. I don't, for example, listen to the Smiths these days, and think 'Jesus, what a contemptible bastard he is in 2018' - rather, I think 'what a marginalised individual he felt like in 1982' etc.
Context is context though, and now, on LiHS, with a track like "I Bury the Living," I do find myself listening and thinking: 'this is misguided, ham-fisted and clumsy - perhaps even offensive.' Seems to me personally that when he avoids explicit, song-long forays into politics (pretty much everything 1982-2010)* he's fine. World Peace... onward I have found largely intolerable, and saved only by the nostalgic whimpering of his that I've grown so much to love (e.g. "Oboe Concerto," "Jacky's Only Happy..." etc.).
As with anything though - and I think this is often forgotten on this forum - it's each to their own, isn't it. I do wish he'd shut up with silly comments about Hitler etc., but if I don't like it, I ignore it and admit to people who ask me why I'm a fan that that aspect isn't part of my adoration.
*I am aware of songs like "The National Front Disco" and "Irish Blood..." - these are about emotion first, then a political connection; they are not, to my ears, the same as "World Peace..." or *shudder* "Israel"