a movie for Moz fans everywhere!

Re: I do not think that I will be seeing this film...

> It is too close to home and to near the bone...

i think the point of the movie was that it wasn't the end of the world....but then, i haven't seen the movie, so i don't know. it could be like Shallow Hal but for life-long celibates.

> On the other hand, what I would not have given to have seen the
> performance by Renee Fleming mentioned in your journal, Suzanne.

> I am always playing her album "Bel Canto."

> Ah! non credea mirarti
> Si presto estinto, o fiore;
> passasti al par d'amore,
> Che un giorno sol duro.
> *swoons*

i have that album. i haven't listened to it much, but not because of the bad singing.

for her first encore, she sang O mio bambino caro. for her last one, she sang "you'll never walk alone". there was a lot of stuff in german, and strangely enough, some Robert Burns poetry translated to german. i couldn't pick out a lot of it, but then again, i think i need to be tested for hearing loss at certain frequencies because i noticed that i was the only person up there leaning over in their seats to try and hear her. even the old women next to me were rocking out. when she was talking to the audience she said, "can you hear me up there?" and everyone around me was all "oh yes!" and i was like "only your high notes..."
 
Re: Pwooooaaaarrrr!

Oh Bertie, you've made my day! Who would have thought that little Christian Bale from "Empire Of The Sun" would have grown up to be such a HAWWWWWWWWWWWWT man! See "American Psycho" if you can, it's WORTH the price of admission. ( But it's on video now (which I proudly own) so go get yours if you can!!!!!! Thank you thank you thank you
 
Re: I do not think that I will be seeing this film...

> i have that album. i haven't listened to it much, but not because of the
> bad singing.

I will admit that I have difficulty discerning whether the more awkward inflections are to be attributed to Fleming's incompetence or simply the grotesqueries inherent to the idiom, the bell canto phrasing.

> for her first encore, she sang O mio bambino caro.

I startled upon reading this, but realize, upon reflection, that my appreciation for the piece might be a little stunted for having been spoiled so by Maria Calla's particular rendition. In the same way that, say, you are unable to properly hear the traditional "House of the Rising Sun" without its being strained through the unconscious template of The Animal's almost canonical version. Even so, it would have been nice to hear.

> there was a lot of stuff in german, and strangely enough, some Robert Burns poetry translated to german.

Ah, the Germans and their "lieders." Frankly, I think a half-intelligible Robert Burns to be a good thing.

Thank you for your response, Suzanne.
 
Re: Pwooooaaaarrrr!

Watch "American Psycho" and you won't think he's that hot (the book is even gorier).
 
Re: Pwooooaaaarrrr!

> Watch "American Psycho" and you won't think he's that hot (the
> book is even gorier).

I think he was so hot in that movie. Have you ever seen a better bod in your life? I am reading the book now. I am about halfway through. I don't sympathize with the character Bateman in any way. But then, I don't really feel anything towards any of the victims either. I think that is the author's intent -- to create a mood which is numb, only concerned with outside appearances.

I know that a lot of womens groups -- especially NOW have boycotted the book -- claiming that it is sexualized vilolence against women. I am just not picking up that perspective. It is very violent -- of course. But Bateman is not motivated by HATE. He is not a misogynist that singles out women, but rather a random killing sociopath. His targets are those that are easy prey. I have to finish the book before I can really form a copmlete opinion.

So far the book is way better than the movie. Even though Bale was perfect 'looking' in that role, the movie failed to capture Batemen's twisted psyche.
 
F.A.O. Suzanne

Suzanne, I just found this review in an AMG New Release e-mail. Have you heard this one? I find it intriguing for Mahler's fifth Ruckert Lieder alone. But, frankly, the thought of some of these induce rather sour spangles of queasiness:

Renee Fleming - "Haunted Heart"

Arthur Schwartz Haunted heart 5:22
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

Joni Mitchell River 4:20
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Richard A. Whiting When did you leave heaven? 2:54
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Bill Carey/Carl Fischer You've Changed 5:16
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

Fred Rauch / Carl Sigman / Gerhard Winkler Answer Me (My Love) 3:49
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Stevie Wonder My Cherie Amour 3:22
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

John Lennon & Paul McCartney In My Life 5:10
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

Jimmy Webb Moon Is a Harsh Mistress 4:10
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Various Composers Excerpt from Wozzeck (Berg) / Improvisation (Hersh) / The Midnight Sun (Burke/Hampton) 6:16
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

Gustav Mahler Rückert Lieder (5) for voice & piano (or orchestra): Liebst du um Schönheit 2:40
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Various Composers My One and Only Love (Mellin/Wood) / This Is Always (Warren/Mack) 8:03
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

Heitor Villa-Lobos Cançao do Amor, for voice & orchestra (arranged from Floresta do Amazonas), A. 546 3:47
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Emile Paladilhe Psyché for voice & piano 2:55
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Fred Hersch, More Performance Details...

Stephen Collins Foster Hard Times Come Again No More for voice & piano 5:48
Performed by: Renée Fleming, Bill Frisell, More Performance Details...

Review by Allen Schrott Performance: 4/5 Sound 5/5
Haunted Heart is the debut of the “other” Renée Fleming – the smoky chanteuse lurking behind America’s most prominent operatic soprano. It is a transformation so organic and whole that it may astonish even those who already know of Fleming’s history with jazz singing. Make no mistake: this is not “Renée sings Jazz” in the vein of “Kiri Sings Cole Porter,” or even “Dawn Upshaw Sings Rodgers and Hart.” This is not an operatic voice in wonderland. It is a new voice, the voice of an entirely different musical persona, and on its own terms something quite successful.

Fleming’s husky yet limpid sound is distinctive and original, not the result of mimicry. But if you need an image to conceptualize what you’ll hear on this album, think Anita Baker or a leaner-sounding Patti Cathcart: deep, warm, breathy, but with deceptive freedom and clarity. Paired with the sprawling pianism of Fred Hersch and the effects-laden guitar of Bill Frisell, Fleming's singing stands strangely out of time, neither old nor fully modern. It is decidedly old fashioned in many ways, a return to the front-and-center vocalism of the 1940s and 1950s – an album about songs, and about singing. But the eclectic track list – including famous songs by Lennon and McCartney, Bill Carey, Stevie Wonder, Gustav Mahler (yes, that Gustav Mahler), and Stephen Foster – could only be a product of postmodern thinking, in which boundaries of time and style become increasingly meaningless.

That eclecticism is a great strength of Haunted Heart. Hearing Fleming deliver a torch song to beat all in “You’ve Changed,” only to follow it up with the joyful “My Cherie Amour” and then a stylishly down-tempo rendition of “In My Life” gives new legs, and fresh context, to all three. But that inclusiveness eventually catches up with Fleming, and the second half of the album begins to wander as she inserts songs from the Classical repertory. Gustav Mahler’s “Liebst du um Schönheit” seems lonely clothed only in sparse guitar accompaniment; and Emile Paladilhe’s “Psyché” suddenly transports Fleming back to the soprano register – the only time on the entire album when you’ll be reminded of Fleming’s concert singing.

As an interpreter of this music, Fleming has admirable versatility, able to whisper her way through utter desperation and dance through lighthearted joy, all the while displaying a degree of vocal beauty and fluidity of line that few singers of any style could match. Her singing is deeply honest and imbued with an arresting sexuality. Frisell’s distinctive guitar echoes give a surreal poignancy to the plaintive “Answer Me,” and a snappy good nature to “When Did You Leave Heaven?” His finest moment is the concluding “Hard Times Come Again No More,” in which his gentle accompaniment mirrors the change of text and vocal inflection throughout each of the four verses. Fred Hersch’s arrangements are for the most part very effective, though they have a tendency to ramble, squandering songs’ momentum and sense of structure. His playing, and especially his accompanying in slow ballads, shows exquisite touch and sensitivity, and a fluid sense of rhythm that is both enveloping and clear.




http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=43:124549
 
Re: F.A.O. Suzanne

> Suzanne, I just found this review in an AMG New Release e-mail. Have you
> heard this one? I find it intriguing for Mahler's fifth Ruckert Lieder
> alone. But, frankly, the thought of some of these induce rather sour
> spangles of queasiness:

i knew that she had been into jazz singing before Juliard picked her up, but i don't know...maybe it will be really good, but it would have to be REALLY good for me to tolerate. middling torch stuff puts me to sleep.
 
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