The evolution of an artist who became the most misunderstood and misrepresented icon of our time.
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I was around too: references, direct and oblique, endured in the music press for years.Ive had the same discussion with Nerak and she's convinced that was the start of it, I was around at the time and I can't remember anyone making a deal out of it whether a Morrissey fan or not?
Well it all started back then. Or even before. Had twitter been around at that time the faux outrage would have been much the same. Remember that Q-interview from that period?As I understand it, you are very fixated on Finsbury 1992 and want that as a possible argument for everything that came after? A bit easy, isn't it.
I read it in the NME thread and it's quite obsessive. I just wonder if little niceties like "Migrant boats mean migrant votes" then go under the radar of hardcore fans? Talking about "It's all the fake news fault".Ive had the same discussion with Nerak and she's convinced that was the start of it, I was around at the time and I can't remember anyone making a deal out of it whether a Morrissey fan or not?
To be fair, in the context of today there would’ve been good recordings of the show; so the NME would’ve been exposed as malignant liars.Well it all started back then. Or even before. Had twitter been around at that time the faux outrage would have been much the same. Remember that Q-interview from that period?
Morrissey hasn't changed, but the world has, unfortunately.
It's referred back to in nearly every article that denounces him. Talk to any journalist & that's a major part of his narrative.
"Blacks and whites will never get on, the French and British will never get on"I read it in the NME thread and it's quite obsessive. I just wonder if little niceties like "Migrant boats mean migrant votes" then go under the radar of hardcore fans?
I read it in the NME thread and it's quite obsessive. I just wonder if little niceties like "Migrant boats mean migrant votes" then go under the radar of hardcore fans?
I was around too: references, direct and oblique, endured in the music press for years.
The latter ‘brick’ quote came straight from the pen of Steven Wells: Quantick acquaintance ‘funnily’ enough.
I am not as fixated on Finsbury as the seed of all evil as others here. What does that mean? A great conspiracy against him? The lust for the fall of great stars is huge everywhere on this planet. Look at what Freddy Mercury or Elton John had to endure and dealt with better (because more offensively) than Morrissey. Take the Spiegel interview or my quote from above. I'm more interested in his blubber from the last few years, which he would like to sell as freedom of speech, if possible without argument."Blacks and whites will never get on, the French and British will never get on"
Did that get under your, or Skinny's or other hardcore fans radar back then I wonder...
"Blacks and whites will never get on, the French and British will never get on"
Did that get under your, or Skinny's or other hardcore fans radar back then I wonder, if you're ever so sensitive about those things now... Not to mention the flag-waving, the skinhead-imagery, Bengali, Asian Rut, NF Disco and so on...
A very one-dimensional view of things and almost the answer of a politician himself to make things with a negative core appear positive. You do that well, one could almost believe you. At one point you were a bit more objective, Karen.He wasn't attacking migrants, he was saying that politicians were ignoring problems because it wasn't a vote winner. Something that's a continual theme in political journalism - which is why it rarely gets brought up.
The latter ‘brick’ quote came straight from the pen of Steven Wells: Quantick acquaintance ‘funnily’ enough.
A very one-dimensional view of things and almost the answer of a politician himself to make things with a negative core appear positive. You do that well, one could almost believe you. At one point you were a bit more objective, Karen.
Another repetitive, copy and paste "article", containing levels of unquestioning sycophancy that would make Kim Jong-un wince.
"Where there is silence from Morrissey, his critics speak for him. Where there are words from Morrissey, the critics interpret them."
When it comes to his views on race, Kevin Spacey, wearing a lapel badge of a far right party etc, he hasn't left any room for misinterpretation. If only he'd kept his gob shut, he might still have a record deal.
Having a very low public profile hasn't hurt the careers of say Dylan, Kate Bush or Kraftwerk's Ralf Hutter.
Had Twitter existed at the time, The Smiths would have been cancelled and blacklisted back in 1986 when Morrissey called reggae "a glorification of black supremacy" and "to get on Top Of The Pops these days, one has to be, by law, black".Well it all started back then. Or even before. Had twitter been around at that time the faux outrage would have been much the same. Remember that Q-interview from that period?
Morrissey hasn't changed, but the world has, unfortunately.
Indeed, thank you.Had Twitter existed at the time, The Smiths would have been cancelled and blacklisted back in 1986 when Morrissey called reggae "a glorification of black supremacy" and "to get on Top Of The Pops these days, one has to be, by law, black".
"His views on race? Moz is a big fan of James Baldwin"'He hasn't left any room for misinterpretation'.
His views on race? Moz is a big fan of James Baldwin. I guess that tells you quite a lot about his views on racial politics in America?
Kevin Spacey - Moz suggested that sexual impropriety is grey, not black and white. Strange for a fan of Oscar Wilde? He also stated clearly his detestation of sexual violence. No misinterpretation on that issue. He is a feminist, after all.
He wore a lapel badge of a party that wants to ban religious slaughter. Quelle surprise.
Sounds like you have a very different interpretation than I do.
Indeed, thank you.
Wonder what the current Phranc or Skinny or other former fans would have done back then?
Join the faux outrage-brigade or remain loyal to The Smiths? We already know the answer