Morrissey Central "MILEY IS A PUNK ROCKER" (December 24, 2022)

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Miley Cyrus now wants to be taken off the song ‘I Am Veronica’ for which she volunteered backing vocals almost two years ago. This comes at a time when Morrissey has disassociated himself with Capitol Records (Los Angeles), who control the hidden album ‘Bonfire of Teenagers’.
Above, Morrissey and Miley during Miley’s session for ‘I Am Veronica’.



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I think the problem for Morrissey in the scenario as we understand it is that if Capitol are not able to release the album as agreed, the contract will be deemed frustrated. That would mean Morrissey handing back his advance and, if the frustration is indeed his fault for blabbing, quite possibly a contractual forfeit and/or damages. And he would probably not be able to sign another deal until that were resolved. So he might just let Capitol do whatever they want to in order for the release to go ahead (which sounds like what he is doing).

I don't think record labels are even close (in 2022 NO WAY) to being as supportive to the artist as they used to be, with cash advances and such I mean. Most money for artists comes from touring/performances - I believe that this has mostly (99%) always been the case - (Michael Jackson/Beatles/possibly a few others...didn't need to tour all the time w/their record sales being so high already). Like Morrissey having week-long performances in Las Vegas, that is very good pay for him and his team overall. If Morrissey would always make it productive ($$$) doing the Vegas shows and really shine during the performances, he could have an annual booking (as it seems is sort of happening now). That would be money you could count on.

Nowadays, you can preview the whole album before you go to purchase (and do this an infinite amount of times before you even buy anything) - and when you then purchase you could choose only a few tracks to buy - then the artist only receives $8.00 or some smaller total from the whole. I agree with many people on this site, like K. Sun, that Morrissey should release future projects himself and cut out the middle-element of a big-name record label if - as it appears to his dismay - they cannot fulfill what he thinks are 'normal' requirements in terms of promoting, releasing the recordings, etc.

Honestly, I did not really appreciate Billie Joe Armstrong guesting on the covers album, and Miley guesting on BOT - with respect to them being Morrissey fans or them respecting him as an artist - I just don't like either one of them. They both have acted way too much like children - even for Morrissey.
 
Agreed that it may be a blessing in disguise not to have MC on backing vocals, but can we please stop this orgy of misogyny? We still don't know exactly what has happened....
Absolutely agree. I'm not a fan and couldn't care less for Miley Cyrus and find it really strange that they collaborated in the first place. But they did and he promoted that. We don't know what happened and know that you have to take the things posted on Central with a grain of salt. But all this has nothing to do with how much clothing she wears or not wears on stage.
 
Just the amount of energy some here expel in judging Morrissey's behaviour is something I cannot be bothered with. I've heard the rumours, seen the headlines and smelled the fumes of Morrissey's so called demise for his entire solo career and we're still here.

So no I don't think this feels different at all. If he never releases another album I do not care. He has plenty of songs already and therein lies the fact that we do too. The fact that he has released so many while remaining true to himself is a testament to his character whether one likes him or not.

Every trial, tribulation and fault of character is right there in his huge catalogue of songs. If this recent episode has you looking for the lifeboat, you haven't been listening close enough.

Morrissey is trouble.

You're right. In fact, thank you for explaining it so well. People are who they are, and Morrissey would honestly not be as great of an artist if he didn't have a dynamic range in living his life, to say the least. Plus, it's obvious from his lyrics (over his entire career) that the man does care very deeply, down to his core. I also am proud (don't agree with every single one of his views but...) that he has been true to himself, and represents the way he does about the things he cares about. It has also been spoken/alluded to in his lyrics that he doesn't mind being 'alone' in his beliefs. He grew up to be a man his parents would be proud of, in my opinion. And truthfully, you don't need too many friends.

If we don't get any future Morrissey releases though, that would bother me. He uses his voice much better now than he ever has before, and I know that there's a high probability that I'll find at least 3-4 songs on each future release that are really good (or great) Morrissey songs ---- which could be added to my inevitably 'very famous' top 50/top 100 Morrissey songs playlist one day!
 
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78 million instagram.
40 million twitter.
44 million facebook.
think some of these people might disagree with you.
record companies see these numbers and the first thing they do is get their calculators out.

She appeals to a different culture of fans.

Though to be fair, she certainly shouldn't have any of Metallica's fans, regardless of her guesting on their recording. Metallica fans were most likely near-death when they first heard of the 'collaboration'.
 
In the printed edition of The Times, there is a side story mentioning that Morrissey supported her cover of "There is a light.."

"Anyone who refuses to eat fish and birds is fantastic by me!"

"Whether he rescinded that approval when she started eating fish in 2019 is not known. Cyrus said she cried for the fish, but that she ditched veganism for health reasons".
 
Agreed that it may be a blessing in disguise not to have MC on backing vocals, but can we please stop this orgy of misogyny? We still don't know exactly what has happened....

Right, criticism of one woman is hatred of women. :rolleyes:
 
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Alternative Times article (December 27, 2022) via print/digital version.
FWD.
 
Right, criticism of one woman is hatred of women. :rolleyes:
Criticism of one woman is absolutely fine, but, and I quote, "Does this sh#t bucket of STDs, headaches and pornographic stage trash toss her heavily soiled g-string to it's brainless, mindless audience?" is most definitely misogynistic.
 
Criticism of one woman is absolutely fine, but, and I quote, "Does this sh#t bucket of STDs, headaches and pornographic stage trash toss her heavily soiled g-string to it's brainless, mindless audience?" is most definitely misogynistic.

Okay, but that's not really an orgy of misogyny. That's just one person spouting off. Nobody's even "liked" the post thus far. I rated it "interesting" because the poster compared Miley Cyrus unfavorably to Sandie Shaw and Nico, which is fair.
 

I really hope, Der Spiegel is not telling "lies" again.

No, they only repeat the same stuff. The last words are a bit strange though:

„Meanwhile, singer Miley Cyrus has not commented, but it could be an act of solidarity with Morrissey. On the musician's website, the post in which the news was announced was captioned "Miley is a Punk Rocker" - along with a photo together.“

Not sure about this either:

„The release date of the album remains unclear as Capitol Records still legally owns the album. Bonfire of Teenagers was originally scheduled for release in February 2023, but since the split, Morrissey has also deleted the announcement post on Instagram.“
 

I really hope, Der Spiegel is not telling "lies" again.

In 2017 every question was a lie - which made the heavily edited replies out of context, which changes the meaning.

And it's likely that all they've done in that article is repeat information sourced from Twitter & haven't verified it.
 
In 2017 every question was a lie - which made the heavily edited replies out of context, which changes the meaning.

And it's likely that all they've done in that article is repeat information sourced from Twitter & haven't verified it.
Lol
 
Variety article offered by 'anon' added to OP.
Add too:
Morrissey Exits Capitol Records As Miley Cyrus Is ‘Taken Off’ Unreleased Song
FWD.
Also, https://www.independent.ie/entertai...cals-removed-from-collaboration-42247530.html
 
shes giving herself what the americans call a wedgie,wow somebody call the cops.i can see where your coming from but shes a young lassie with probably too much money,do you honestly think if she was an asshole she would have been anywhere near the recording studio.
it is wedgie in every english speaking country
 
In 2017 every question was a lie - which made the heavily edited replies out of context, which changes the meaning.

And it's likely that all they've done in that article is repeat information sourced from Twitter & haven't verified it.
:lbf: :lbf: :lbf: :lbf:
 
Does this sh#t bucket of STDs, headaches and pornographic stage trash toss her heavily soiled g-string to it's brainless, mindless audience? Does it mate on stage ? Talk about an invention of the sickening current day music industry with totally meaningless lyrics ?
Had you relied on your past success and the talents of Alain, Boz, and the group you'd have saved yourself this train wreck. Look at this "woman"? Nico it is not. Sandy Shaw it is not. It's just vulgar trash.
Yes, it is vulgar trash and those pictures are actually pretty tame compared to her usual. I don't see how it's misogynistic to point this out, like it's somehow empowering to degrade yourself.
 
Yes, it is vulgar trash and those pictures are actually pretty tame compared to her usual. I don't see how it's misogynistic to point this out, like it's somehow empowering to degrade yourself.
There are quite possibly some valid critiques of MS from a feminist perspective.

"Spunk-bucket of STDs" doesn't exactly scream feminist perspective, though.
 
There are quite possibly some valid critiques of MS from a feminist perspective.

"Spunk-bucket of STDs" doesn't exactly scream feminist perspective, though.
I usually don't look at things from a feminist perspective and I think a lot of feminism is a lie, I don't find it empowering at all. If someone is going to act like a whore, then people are going to react to them like that, with complete disrespect and disgust. I don't believe sex work is real work, and I do believe anyone who does it has some serious psychological issue they aren't dealing with, a drug addiction or they are forced into it. I get where you are coming from, I think, that you would rather see more valid critiques than just name calling. But then again, there is seriously no way to validly critique some of these things, like that song WAP (which is not Miley), it's just trash.
 
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