Morrissey A-Z: "Striptease With a Difference"

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
With two different finished mixes, and Morrissey talking about it in an interview at the time, this was
definitely at one point considered for release, maybe only as an album track when Bona Drag was in the works as a proper album. Thinking that when Bona Drag as a album (not compilation) was scrapped, so was Striptease. Of course it should have been a b-side, it really is a mystery why it wasn’t.

With the piano and bounce, it might have sounded too much of the same along side Palare, which is maybe why it wasn’t used as a b-side on that single.

Maybe with all the pressures for an album by the label, plans for touring, needing a band, it, like many songs were just
put aside.



Such original lyric, and love the sitar(?) like sound, can be heard better on the second (less piano) version.
 
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Phranc & Open

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Such original lyric, and love the sitar(?) like sound, can be heard better on the second (less piano) version.
It sounds more like squeaky keyboards (Fairlight Synthesizer) from the 70s or early 80s, which were not in fashion at all in 1990. Curious.
 

Ketamine Sun

HANG THEM HIGH VERONICA
It sounds more like squeaky keyboards (Fairlight Synthesizer) from the 70s or early 80s, which were not in fashion at all in 1990. Curious.

Yeah, can’t tell if it was synth or treated guitar. But yes, Fairlight
which is a kind of early sampler could have been employed.
 

Eldritch

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Considering how short and slight Kill Uncle is -- like they barely managed to scrape it together --, it is indeed very curious how a track this good didn't get a chance. A funny song with a catchy chorus and witty lyrics, what is there not to like?
 

Phranc & Open

two-timer
Yeah, can’t tell if it was synth or treated guitar. But yes, Fairlight
which is a kind of early sampler could have been employed.
Isn't it the case, that all 3 versions are the same length and have the same lead vocals? The overdubs have been added here and there, best heard on the spherical "Fairlight synthesizer version", which sounds cool but doesn't want to fit in with the Madness vibes. A lot was really invested in this song.
 

Mozmar

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Isn't it the case, that all 3 versions are the same length and have the same lead vocals? The overdubs have been added here and there, best heard on the spherical "Fairlight synthesizer version", which sounds cool but doesn't want to fit in with the Madness vibes. A lot was really invested in this song.
Slight differences in track length, from PJLM:
  • studio outtake {3:13}
Leaked on the internet in 2004; this version starts with drums and a piano 'cascade'.
  • alternate studio outtake {3:11}
Leaked on the internet in 2006; this version starts with only drums.
  • other alternate studio outtake {3:20}
Taken from a record company cd-r of a scrapped reissue of "Kill Uncle", this version which starts with drums and a piano cascade, has leaked on the "Revelation" bootleg.
 

Phranc & Open

two-timer
Slight differences in track length, from PJLM:
  • studio outtake {3:13}
Leaked on the internet in 2004; this version starts with drums and a piano 'cascade'.
  • alternate studio outtake {3:11}
Leaked on the internet in 2006; this version starts with only drums.
  • other alternate studio outtake {3:20}
Taken from a record company cd-r of a scrapped reissue of "Kill Uncle", this version which starts with drums and a piano cascade, has leaked on the "Revelation" bootleg.
Very insightful, thanks. But is Morrissey's lead vocal take the same everywhere? Can you tell?
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
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One thing noticeable as we're going through the Wiki is the loose use of dating (not only by Morrissey/credits, but external websites too).
A version of Striptease... on the withdrawn The Best Of Morrissey is attributed to the Viva Hate sessions (with photo evidence), which obviously confuses things.
Then to be made available (unsure if same version as previous) on the Kill Uncle reference CD-R thereafter (you know who you are - 'bout time you shared a FLAC rip of all 3:20 of it :) ).
So take your pick - one makes more sense than the other.
We need some more listening parties on Twitter and people primed to ask questions.
Regards,
FWD.
 

Phranc & Open

two-timer
One thing noticeable as we're going through the Wiki is the loose use of dating (not only by Morrissey/Credits, but external websites too).
A version of Striptease... on the withdrawn The Best Of Morrissey is attributed to the Viva Hate sessions (with photo evidence), which obviously confuses things.
Then to be made available (unsure if same as previous) on the Kill Uncle reference CD-R thereafter (you know who you are - 'bout time you shared a FLAC rip of all 3:20 of it :) ).
So take your pick - one makes more sense than the other.
We need some more listening parties on Twitter and people primed to ask questions.
Regards,
FWD.
Andrew Paresi is the man, who knows such things (and likes to talk about it). :)
 

Mozmar

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Very insightful, thanks. But is Morrissey's lead vocal take the same everywhere? Can you tell?
As far as I can tell, the lead vocal is the same on all versions, it just seems to be the intros which vary, as per previous details provided.
I stand ready to be corrected by any higher authority, however.
 

Phranc & Open

two-timer
"(No to) any higher authority" would have been a good Morrissey album title in 2011 or so.
 

Mozmar

Well-Known Member
Just noticed, the Revelation version (2009), which I have courtesy of this place, shows as being 3:12, not 3:20 as indicated on PJLM...unless it yet another version.
 

Phranc & Open

two-timer
Just noticed, the Revelation version (2009), which I have courtesy of this place, shows as being 3:12, not 3:20 as indicated on PJLM...unless it yet another version.
I got the idea of the same length because the two versions at the beginning of the thread both show 3:13 - 3:14.
 

Mozmar

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Interestingly, if you go the the excellent work done by Dirtee Rephlex, in the 'Sisterama: 01. Viva Hate', 03. Unreleased folder, SWAD outtake mixes 1, & 2 are in there in .mp3 format, 3:11 & 3:13 respectively.
 

Famous when dead

Vulgarian
Moderator
Probably based on this scan (or that they were in a similar place in the NHS):

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Which is the closest to factual besides Stephane's information there is unfortunately.
Regards,
FWD.
 

Phranc & Open

two-timer
Ach, in 1990 this would have been a wonderful little indie single fot the pop charts. Beautifully quirky British and the antithesis of the techno, house and rave sound, that had a stranglehold on Europe. Now, 31 years later, we nerds are taking the outtake apart and asking "What if.... had been?" I'd love to have an outtake boxset from September 1987 onwards. I'd get lost in it.
 
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Bless Comrades:praying:

1987 box set, comrades? ha ha very amusing comment comrade
but wrong comment. needed correct box set japanese rarities and
signed 45 vegas swag:closedlockkey:

xxx Comrade T
 
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