Morrissey Central "OPEN LETTER TO JOHNNY MARR." (January 25, 2022)

This is not a rant or an hysterical bombast. It is a polite and calmly measured request: Would you please stop mentioning my name in your interviews?

Would you please, instead, discuss your own career, your own unstoppable solo achievements and your own music?

If you can, would you please just leave me out of it?

The fact is: you don’t know me. You know nothing of my life, my intentions, my thoughts, my feelings. Yet you talk as if you were my personal psychiatrist with consistent and uninterrupted access to my instincts. We haven’t known each other for 35 years - which is many lifetimes ago. When we met you and I were not successful. We both helped each other become whatever it is we are today. Can you not just leave it at that? Must you persistently, year after year, decade after decade, blame me for everything … from the 2007 Solomon Islands tsunami to the dribble on your grandma’s chin ?

You found me inspirational enough to make music with me for 6 years. If I was, as you claim, such an eyesore monster, where exactly did this leave you? Kidnapped? Mute? Chained? Abducted by cross-eyed extraterrestrials? It was YOU who played guitar on ‘Golden Lights’ - not me.

Yes, we all know that the British press will print anything you say about me as long as it’s cruel and savage. But you’ve done all that. Move on. It’s as if you can’t uncross your own legs without mentioning me. Our period together was many lifetimes ago, and a lot of blood has streamed under the bridge since then. There comes a time when you must take responsibility for your own actions and your own career, with which I wish you good health to enjoy. Just stop using my name as click-bait. I have not ever attacked your solo work or your solo life, and I have openly applauded your genius during the days of ‘Louder than bombs’ and ‘Strangeways, here we come’, yet you have positioned yourself ever-ready as rent-a-quote whenever the press require an ugly slant on something I half-said during the last glacial period as the Colorado River began to carve out the Grand Canyon. Please stop. It is 2022, not 1982.

Morrissey. January 2022.

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Moz should spend less time worrying about what Johnny says and instead focus on how he's managed to torpedo his career through his own words. It's a real shame since his last album was great and I have high hopes for the new one, but no label wants to deal with his nonsense.
 
This surprised me - how raw, how honest, how unexpected?
I am not sure it needed to be an "open" letter - Moz could have said this in private - but it will certainly open Johnny's eyes to Moz grievances. It might even compel JM to ring him and apologise, who knows?
 
What a f***ing prat.

Maybe Johnny Marr talks about The Smiths because people ask him about The Smiths, and he was in The Smiths?

:rolleyes:

Ok, nobody will ask him about 'unstoppable solo career' good point. even when promoting the unstoppable solo career. 😐

ps chances are 100 percent that LePew doesnt have Moz phone number


:hammer:
 
This surprised me - how raw, how honest, how unexpected?
I am not sure it needed to be an "open" letter - Moz could have said this in private - but it will certainly open Johnny's eyes to Moz grievances. It might even compel JM to ring him and apologise, who knows?

What the everlasting hell has JM got to apologise for? That someone asks him his opinion?

The one who has to apologise is that weird relative who constantly shills his amateurish photoshops at us with the grace of a rock and the wit of a mouse.
 
I too started to say in his defense, but then realized Johnny could put prohibit questions regarding the smiths and Moz through his management but is clearly deciding not to.

correct.
 
What the everlasting hell has JM got to apologise for? That someone asks him his opinion?

The one who has to apologise is that weird relative who constantly shills his amateurish photoshops at us with the grace of a rock and the wit of a mouse.

:rolleyes:

Moz has given many interviews in many may years without whingeingly about :handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft: or even mentioning him:handok:

but i guess when you have that unstoppable solo career going....:hammer:
 
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This is not a rant or an hysterical bombast. It is a polite and calmly measured request: Would you please stop mentioning my name in your interviews?

Would you please, instead, discuss your own career, your own unstoppable solo achievements and your own music?

If you can, would you please just leave me out of it?

The fact is: you don’t know me. You know nothing of my life, my intentions, my thoughts, my feelings. Yet you talk as if you were my personal psychiatrist with consistent and uninterrupted access to my instincts. We haven’t known each other for 35 years - which is many lifetimes ago. When we met you and I were not successful. We both helped each other become whatever it is we are today. Can you not just leave it at that? Must you persistently, year after year, decade after decade, blame me for everything … from the 2007 Solomon Islands tsunami to the dribble on your grandma’s chin ?

You found me inspirational enough to make music with me for 6 years. If I was, as you claim, such an eyesore monster, where exactly did this leave you? Kidnapped? Mute? Chained? Abducted by cross-eyed extraterrestrials? It was YOU who played guitar on ‘Golden Lights’ - not me.

Yes, we all know that the British press will print anything you say about me as long as it’s cruel and savage. But you’ve done all that. Move on. It’s as if you can’t uncross your own legs without mentioning me. Our period together was many lifetimes ago, and a lot of blood has streamed under the bridge since then. There comes a time when you must take responsibility for your own actions and your own career, with which I wish you good health to enjoy. Just stop using my name as click-bait. I have not ever attacked your solo work or your solo life, and I have openly applauded your genius during the days of ‘Louder than bombs’ and ‘Strangeways, here we come’, yet you have positioned yourself ever-ready as rent-a-quote whenever the press require an ugly slant on something I half-said during the last glacial period as the Colorado River began to carve out the Grand Canyon. Please stop. It is 2022, not 1982.

Morrissey. January 2022.



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Just a guess - reunion's off 😂
FWD.
Morrissey was sooooo spot on it hurts.
 
Well said Moz.

And now it’s 12 years on…etc
 
The smiths are dead then, I guess. 😁

Poor Amy off here is going to be a little upset.
The general tone of Moz' message is reasonable. That level of hurt is how he has always felt (as Autobio made clear) - but so rare to hear him say it and especially in public. Johnny's response could go one of two ways:

- he could reply angrily, tell M to f*** off to outer space & continue sniping for the next 20 yrs
- he could reply saying, I dunno, "I'm sorry for running my mouth off, I regret some stuff I've said, I wish things were better between us."

And, y'know.. then The Smiths might not be dead, after all. Moz doesn't mean "Never speak about me again", he means "Stop slagging me off all the time!" Johnny could save this, if he wanted to.
 
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:rolleyes:

Moz has given many interviews in many may years without whingeingly about :handpointright::guardsman::handpointleft: or even mentioning him:handok:

but i guess when you have that unstoppable solo career going....:hammer:

How innocent. It genuinely hasn't occurred to you that Moz is such a Queen he probably has a list of subjects you can't ask him about if you want an interview with him, has it?
 
Morrissey be flirting. If you don't like me don't look at me. (Are you still looking? I bet you are)
Please don't talk about me because you only say such mean things. I heard you say we are different but I am the same, the same as I was when you loved me. Do you remember?

Oh and Please don't talk about me when I'm gone
Oh, Honey, though our friendship ceases from now on
And listen, if you can't say anything real nice
It's better not to talk at all, that's my advice
We're parting, you go your way, I'll go mine
It's best that we do
Here's a kiss, I hope that this brings lots of luck to you
Makes no difference how I carry on
Just remember
Please don't talk about me when I'm gone.

ol' Mogsey.
 
 
I too started to say in his defense, but then realized Johnny could put prohibit questions regarding the smiths and Moz through his management but is clearly deciding not to.
Maybe he could do that... but why? The Smiths are equally his and he's proud of what they accomplished, why should that be some off-limits topic?
 
:guardsman::guardsman::clapping:
 
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